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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2014, 09:47:28 AM »
68# all in except water for 4-5 days.  The Eberlestock weighs a ton and that is the first place I could save some weight.  My tent is a bit on the posh side by ultralight standards as it has a floor, vestibule and ground cloth.  I also carry a pistol, EPIRB, bear spray and several other backup items when I go solo.  I also usually pack about double the food I should, that could shave 5-6# easily.

Next trip, I'll probably shoot for 59# as a goal for 4+ days.  At the end of the day, hunting stuff weighs a bunch and takes up tons of space.

Stein,

Just curious why you pack both a Pistol and Bear Spray?  That might be an easy place to shave some weight too.  If you're hunting Washington, your chance of running into a Grizzly is astronomically lower then many other Western States.  And I would leave both Pistol and Bear Spray during the hunt.  You're already carrying a weapon...


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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2014, 01:01:06 PM »
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2014, 10:35:33 AM »
68# all in except water for 4-5 days.  The Eberlestock weighs a ton and that is the first place I could save some weight.  My tent is a bit on the posh side by ultralight standards as it has a floor, vestibule and ground cloth.  I also carry a pistol, EPIRB, bear spray and several other backup items when I go solo.  I also usually pack about double the food I should, that could shave 5-6# easily.

Next trip, I'll probably shoot for 59# as a goal for 4+ days.  At the end of the day, hunting stuff weighs a bunch and takes up tons of space.
good lord! did you kill on that trip? a packout with a starting weight of 70lbs sounds miserable

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2014, 10:45:19 AM »
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Stein,

Just curious why you pack both a Pistol and Bear Spray?  That might be an easy place to shave some weight too.  If you're hunting Washington, your chance of running into a Grizzly is astronomically lower then many other Western States.  And I would leave both Pistol and Bear Spray during the hunt.  You're already carrying a weapon...

One for four leggers, the other for two.  The trip was in MT, I wouldn't take the spray in WA unless I was hunting bear and there was a chance of tracking a wounded bear into the bush.  I have seen too many squabbles plus ran across too many strange plants growing in the woods to not carry a pistol.

I travel extremely light when not hunting but don't see how guys can get so light when hunting.  The weight of a rifle, ammo, binos, spotting scope, tripod and butchering gear just adds up so quickly.  Plus, a pack that can handle a 100 pound load on the way out just weighs a bunch more than one designed for 30#.

For the guys in the 30-40# range, does that include all your camping stuff, hunting gear, pack, food and clothing?

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pack weight?
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2014, 10:48:14 AM »
I don't think you need a rifle, a pistol, and bear spray. My butchering gear is a Havalon and a Benchmade. Not sure what the weight is, but well under a pound. I'll be under 40# for 3 days, not counting my rifle I think, but my rifle is 7# all up...so it's pretty light. I don't have the super lightweight gear either, and I'm not cutting the handle off my toothbrush. Not sure if my pack will handle 100# but these other guys with the Kifarus will, and they're in the 6 pound range if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2014, 11:12:22 AM »
This is my pack weight/list for 7 days solo.  This includes EVERYTHING minus water (which needs change based on location), the clothes on my pack, and my trekking poles.  Brings me in at just a hair over 45 lbs.


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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2014, 11:22:46 AM »
I don't think you need a rifle, a pistol, and bear spray. My butchering gear is a Havalon and a Benchmade. Not sure what the weight is, but well under a pound. I'll be under 40# for 3 days, not counting my rifle I think, but my rifle is 7# all up...so it's pretty light. I don't have the super lightweight gear either, and I'm not cutting the handle off my toothbrush. Not sure if my pack will handle 100# but these other guys with the Kifarus will, and they're in the 6 pound range if I'm not mistaken.

OK, so you're pushing 45-50# plus water.  That seems a reasonable goal.

I hunt in areas where if you need to leave an animal on the ground overnight the chance of coming back to bear tracks in the snow is probably 60%.

8 rifle
7 pack
2.5 compact scope/tripod
2 binos
3 sleeping bag
3 tent

That's already 25.5 and I don't have any food, camping gear, clothing or the rest of my hunting gear.

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2014, 11:30:43 AM »
I don't think you need a rifle, a pistol, and bear spray. My butchering gear is a Havalon and a Benchmade. Not sure what the weight is, but well under a pound. I'll be under 40# for 3 days, not counting my rifle I think, but my rifle is 7# all up...so it's pretty light. I don't have the super lightweight gear either, and I'm not cutting the handle off my toothbrush. Not sure if my pack will handle 100# but these other guys with the Kifarus will, and they're in the 6 pound range if I'm not mistaken.

OK, so you're pushing 45-50# plus water.  That seems a reasonable goal.

I hunt in areas where if you need to leave an animal on the ground overnight the chance of coming back to bear tracks in the snow is probably 60%.

8 rifle
7 pack
2.5 compact scope/tripod
2 binos
3 sleeping bag
3 tent

That's already 25.5 and I don't have any food, camping gear, clothing or the rest of my hunting gear.

I'm very happy with my KIT.  There are some things I'll likely play with next year, or when I have some extra cash.  I'd like to explore the quilt route a bit, which would shave a pound, but after that...I'm running out of places to shave weight for what I'm comfortable doing.  There are things I know guys do like bring only a rain jacket, only one set of socks/underwear for a whole trip...you can get down into that magical "30's." If you try.  Also I'd be down in the 30's (and the low 30's at that if I did what a lot of guys do which is not include there weapon or binoculars, because they are always carrying them. 

But the point of these pack weights is to see what your gear all up will be for a pack out IMO.  So your weapon and Bino's will likely be in the pack with the rest of your stuff plus animal. 

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2014, 11:40:04 AM »
im in a similar situation to silk. not many places to shave weight. and most of the places i see other guys do it, it seems counterproductive to the mission at that point.
recently there was a thread where a fella told me i should cut my pack weight in half. im  :chuckle: over that.

ive made a few changes to some of my gear not reflected on here but its pretty close...

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2014, 10:01:57 PM »
Interesting Article:

Stupid Light:  Why light is not necessarily right, and why lighter is not necessarily better

http://andrewskurka.com/2012/stupid-light-not-always-right-or-better/
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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2014, 10:39:00 PM »
Interesting Article:

Stupid Light:  Why light is not necessarily right, and why lighter is not necessarily better

http://andrewskurka.com/2012/stupid-light-not-always-right-or-better/

Interesting article.  Scott (FillTheFreezer) and I have had this conversation multiple times.  We've spent quite a bit of time tweaking our packs to get the weight where we are now to maximize our efficiency.  Thankfully we never have gone the "stupid light" route.  We were smart enough to avoid it ahead of time  :)

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #71 on: June 08, 2014, 11:03:20 PM »
Its amazing what the term "diminishing returns" can apply to :tup:

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2014, 06:45:29 AM »
i know some guys that like to brag about how low their pack weight is. but they seem to bail off the mountain when weather gets nasty  :chuckle: :dunno:

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Re: pack weight?
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2014, 02:03:04 PM »
40-60lbs is about right depending on which pack you're using and weather.  Can get away with less clothes in August, and some packs are lighter than others, gets you down closer to 40lbs for an early season trip. If October/November hunt, pack the extra clothes.  Its worth it.  And don't skimp on food; I've made that mistake a couple times. 

 


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