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Idaho to re-draw?
« on: June 29, 2014, 12:07:31 PM »
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/media/viewNewsRelease.cfm?newsID=7197

I wonder what they are thinking of doing??  If you drew a good tag I would buy it now...make it harder for them to take your tag away  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Seriously though, the only thing I can think is they would disqualify tags from any 10/11 year old that drew (or their group) and re-issue those tags randomly to the remaining, eligible applicants in the pool.

I can see the conundrum, but I don't think they should have allowed the ineligible applicants to remain in the first place...rules are rules and it is very unfair to all of the 10/11 year olds whose parents played by the rules and did not include them in the draw. 
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 03:32:25 PM »
Thanks for this news.

Although I am affected by this (whatever IDFG does, it can't get any worse for me  ;)), I really respect their proactive stance on this.  I have always felt that F&G in Idaho is very responsive to the hunting and fishing community.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2014, 11:04:19 PM »
should do something..what is this showing to sportsman if they let it be? its okay to skirt the law in ID. Its wrong and it shouldnt of happened and it should be rectified

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 12:18:08 PM »
11 year olds prior to july 1st were eligible under the old rules IF they would be twelve by the hunt dates of the controlled hunt. I put my son 11 in for a late moose hunt where he was eligible because he would be twelve by the nov hunt date. Anyways, I agree need to do something for the ones that were not eligible it was pretty obviouse in the regs that the 9-10 year olds couldnt apply. They had it in there pretty plain that they were not eligible. Simple solution would be pull the tags from who was not eligible but drew and re-draw those tags with the remaining applicants , maybe then I might actually draw something! No way should they let em have the tags it was plainly stated in the regs. 

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 03:28:41 PM »
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/media/viewNewsRelease.cfm?newsID=7197

ID is going to post on there website today what they are going to do about this. 

I was told that there is a group of people that have contacted ID about a class action lawsuit if they allow the original draw results to be final.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 03:57:00 PM »
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/media/viewNewsRelease.cfm?newsID=7197

ID is going to post on there website today what they are going to do about this. 

I was told that there is a group of people that have contacted ID about a class action lawsuit if they allow the original draw results to be final.
I suspect legal counsel had advised them this would not hold up under challenge.  You can't just choose to ignore state law because it would be inconvenient and upset folks. 

Have you heard any rumblings about what the proposed solution might entail?
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 04:04:14 PM »
I have not heard what the solution will be.  But I was told that the group that is considering the lawsuit wants all ineligible applications to be withdrawn and for a new draw to take place.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 04:08:14 PM »
It doesn't look like ID will be posting today what they plan to do.  The news release link has no new information about this.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 04:55:58 PM »
I have not heard what the solution will be.  But I was told that the group that is considering the lawsuit wants all ineligible applications to be withdrawn and for a new draw to take place.
A complete re-draw...i.e., rescinding tags from all applicants...or just re-drawing the tags from ineligible winners?
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 05:09:25 PM »
Complete redraw is how I understood it.  IDFG will have an announcement tomorrow it sounds like.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 05:22:40 PM »
This must be why I haven't gotten my money back. Well, round two here we come. Hope for better odds...

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2014, 06:15:59 PM »
Complete redraw is how I understood it.  IDFG will have an announcement tomorrow it sounds like.
Wow...that is what I am starting to hear from others as well...the contention is the the draw is invalid and an entirely new one is required.  This will really irk the guys who drew tough tags that don't get them in the new draw!!! Didn't Washington have to do this several years ago?

This must be why I haven't gotten my money back. Well, round two here we come. Hope for better odds...
There are no refunds in the Deer/Elk/Antelope draws...only the OIL species tag refunds.  Your application fee and hunting lic. are non-refundable and you don't have to buy a tag to put in for D/E/A in Idaho.

 
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2014, 06:25:08 PM »
Washington never really did a "redraw" because they never officially posted results.

So this situation in Idaho is much different than anything we've ever experienced.

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
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