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Offline matt345

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 06:46:17 PM »
I cant see how they could possibly retract tags that we have already purchased for those of us that were drawn !!!!!

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 07:26:16 PM »
I cant see how they could possibly retract tags that we have already purchased for those of us that were drawn !!!!!

Sounds like that is what is going to happen because the draw should have never happened and will be considered invalid.  Not trying to be a jerk it's just what I have been told.

I feel for you.  I know if I would have drawn and then told I can't have the tag or I have to return it because of a technical error I would not be happy.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2014, 08:00:10 PM »
I don't see a redraw.   It opens the door for so many more variables to come into play.   I could see them retracting the ineligible apps and making any tags drawn available in the second draw, but a complete redraw this far beyond the actual drawing date would be unlikely.


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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 08:05:03 PM »
Good luck getting the tag back from my Dad  :bdid:

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2014, 08:51:26 PM »
I don't see a redraw.   It opens the door for so many more variables to come into play.   I could see them retracting the ineligible apps and making any tags drawn available in the second draw, but a complete redraw this far beyond the actual drawing date would be unlikely.
I would agree with that train of thought. However,  I think you along with a couple others would have different responses if you didn't draw. :chuckle:  Anyhow, going to be very interesting come tomorrow........

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2014, 09:00:14 PM »
Wow either way it sounds like there's gonna be a decent sized group mad at idaho for this. That would suck if it's redraw for the lucky tagholders! I wouldn't mind another chance but I don't think they will completely redraw.

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 09:04:48 PM »
From what I have heard today.  I will be very surprised if there is not a redraw.  The lawsuit that is being present to ID is that the draw should have never taken place because of ineligible applications thus making the entire draw results invalid.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 09:06:31 PM »
I don't see a redraw.   It opens the door for so many more variables to come into play.   I could see them retracting the ineligible apps and making any tags drawn available in the second draw, but a complete redraw this far beyond the actual drawing date would be unlikely.
I would agree with that train of thought. However,  I think you along with a couple others would have different responses if you didn't draw. :chuckle:  Anyhow, going to be very interesting come tomorrow........

I wouldn't mind a redraw, give me a chance to double up deer and elk tags.   Gotta catch up after having to take last year off.  Ha ha ha

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2014, 09:11:39 PM »
 :chuckle: Might as well sink the dagger, eih? :chuckle:

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2014, 09:12:48 PM »
I cant see how they could possibly retract tags that we have already purchased for those of us that were drawn !!!!!

Sounds like that is what is going to happen because the draw should have never happened and will be considered invalid.  Not trying to be a jerk it's just what I have been told.

I feel for you.  I know if I would have drawn and then told I can't have the tag or I have to return it because of a technical error I would not be happy.
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Exactly...any hunt where even a single ineligible applicant was arbitrarily included could be deemed as having invalid results...even if no 10 year olds were drawn...requiring a re-draw of those specific hunts...given there were ~3500 ineligible applicants I would guess a good chunk of all the deer and elk hunts, especially the popular/high demand ones could be affected.   :dunno:

As far as rescinding tags...a letter would be sent to all tag holders who do not re-draw and your tag would no longer be valid...refund or exchange for a general tag would be your options I suspect.  That is the least of IDFG's problems at this point.  I did not draw anything and I agree that if they invalidate the results and take tags away from people who drew that would suck...and is very unfair to folks that were eligible and drew.  But as we all now when we are talking legal action and lawsuits...fair and legal are 2 very, very different things. 

If I was a holding a really good tag I would be on pins and needles right now...but I've already accepted my loss and planned accordingly so a re-draw would just muck up all of my planning were I to draw something with whatever they end up doing :yike: 

No matter what, IDFG is going to have a whole bunch of po'd people...so I presume their decision will be based entirely on what is legally defensible.  And it sounds like Bigshooter has some good info...if I remember correctly you were the one who mentioned draw results being a little delayed because of this 9/10 yo stuff before the initial results were even posted?
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2014, 09:16:14 PM »
From what I have heard today.  I will be very surprised if there is not a redraw.  The lawsuit that is being present to ID is that the draw should have never taken place because of ineligible applications thus making the entire draw results invalid.

Everybody has to have a dream.   Ha ha. 

Unfortunately, even a redraw does not fix the issue.   This is why it will not happen.  It's a lose-lose anyway you slice it.

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2014, 09:26:29 PM »
From what I have heard today.  I will be very surprised if there is not a redraw.  The lawsuit that is being present to ID is that the draw should have never taken place because of ineligible applications thus making the entire draw results invalid.

Everybody has to have a dream.   Ha ha. 

Unfortunately, even a redraw does not fix the issue.   This is why it will not happen.  It's a lose-lose anyway you slice it.

It does not fix the issue but it will keep ID out out of court if there is a redraw.  Laws were broken and there is a group of people willing to sue because the laws were not followed.  That is why I think there will be a redraw at this point.  I do agree that it is a lose-lose. 
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2014, 09:34:47 PM »
hey bigshooter, would this apply to the oils? I sure hope not.

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2014, 09:37:14 PM »
2014 winners - start calling Idaho F&G voicing your concerns about a redraw.  I'll get the lawyer lined up.   Start up counseling, have your doctor prescribe anti-anxiety meds, lets get ready to roll.   Ha ha ha


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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2014, 09:38:19 PM »
Does not include the OIL draw.

 


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