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Offline Bigshooter

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2014, 09:49:13 PM »
hey bigshooter, would this apply to the oils? I sure hope not.

No.  But I wonder why this didn't happen in the OIL draw?  Or if it did and nothing was said.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2014, 09:57:39 PM »
I cant see how they could possibly retract tags that we have already purchased for those of us that were drawn !!!!!

Sounds like that is what is going to happen because the draw should have never happened and will be considered invalid.  Not trying to be a jerk it's just what I have been told.

I feel for you.  I know if I would have drawn and then told I can't have the tag or I have to return it because of a technical error I would not be happy.
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Exactly...any hunt where even a single ineligible applicant was arbitrarily included could be deemed as having invalid results...even if no 10 year olds were drawn...requiring a re-draw of those specific hunts...given there were ~3500 ineligible applicants I would guess a good chunk of all the deer and elk hunts, especially the popular/high demand ones could be affected.   :dunno:

As far as rescinding tags...a letter would be sent to all tag holders who do not re-draw and your tag would no longer be valid...refund or exchange for a general tag would be your options I suspect.  That is the least of IDFG's problems at this point.  I did not draw anything and I agree that if they invalidate the results and take tags away from people who drew that would suck...and is very unfair to folks that were eligible and drew.  But as we all now when we are talking legal action and lawsuits...fair and legal are 2 very, very different things. 

If I was a holding a really good tag I would be on pins and needles right now...but I've already accepted my loss and planned accordingly so a re-draw would just muck up all of my planning were I to draw something with whatever they end up doing :yike: 

No matter what, IDFG is going to have a whole bunch of po'd people...so I presume their decision will be based entirely on what is legally defensible.  And it sounds like Bigshooter has some good info...if I remember correctly you were the one who mentioned draw results being a little delayed because of this 9/10 yo stuff before the initial results were even posted?

I may have posted it but I think someone posted it before I did.  And what I was told then is that they were removing all of the ineligible applications.  So I don't know what happened and why they went ahead and included them in the draw. 
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2014, 09:58:54 PM »
Somebody has to feel like an Ass for making such a big stink about this.  I mean its about a deadline of a couple weeks and taking tags away from kids.  Sure wish I had a tag but would rather see a kid shoot a buck/bull in the end.  I understand a rule is a rule but come on this really seems pretty ridiculous!

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2014, 10:01:11 PM »
Somebody has to feel like an Ass for making such a big stink about this.  I mean its about a deadline of a couple weeks and taking tags away from kids.  Sure wish I had a tag but would rather see a kid shoot a buck/bull in the end.  I understand a rule is a rule but come on this really seems pretty ridiculous!

1,000 kids didn't follow the rules and may have drawn a tag.  4,000 kids did follow the rules and none of them drew a tag.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2014, 10:07:37 PM »
Its much more than the kids...its the point and that a govt agency thinks its okay to let things slide that they set in place...So is it now okay for me to start hunting a day early cause its so close to opening day? or I was close to the unit boundary.

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2014, 10:19:49 PM »
Verbatim from pg 108 of the 2014 IDFG regs: 
 
Effective July 1, 2014 – the minimum age to hunt big game
was lowered from 12 to 10. A 9-year old may buy a license to
apply for a controlled hunt tag, but he or she must be 10 years
old at the time of the hunt.
Since this law does not take effect until July 1, 2014, hunters
who are 10 cannot apply for big game controlled hunts in the
first controlled hunt application periods (April-June)
, but a
9-year old who will turn 10 during the season can apply in the
second application period in August.

I'm becoming more convinced we are going to have a re-draw :bash:  Voluntary or court-ordered I am uncertain...IDFG's lawyers are huddled with their PR folks right now I imagine.  :chuckle: 
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2014, 10:38:36 PM »
plain as day and the parents that applied the kids should be sent a citation

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2014, 10:25:45 AM »
Any word on what's happening today? I know a couple guy with unit 11 tags that are nervous
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2014, 10:56:18 AM »
FUBAR.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2014, 10:58:00 AM »
Like I said earlier, I rather like IDFG. But this is a total mess.
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2014, 11:00:06 AM »
No redraw.   Kids get to keep their tags, 363 drawn tags added back to the pool for 12 y/o and above.   

Probably the best that they could do given the circumstances.

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2014, 11:36:46 AM »
No redraw.   Kids get to keep their tags, 363 drawn tags added back to the pool for 12 y/o and above.   

Probably the best that they could do given the circumstances.
so they're giving out extra tags?

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2014, 11:48:26 AM »
That is the way that I read it?

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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2014, 11:50:38 AM »
That is the way that I read it?
Where did you read this?
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Re: Idaho to re-draw?
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2014, 12:00:51 PM »
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