mountainsmith LT or mountain hardwear hoopla?

[cvandervort]

does anyone have any experience with either of these? or both?
I am particularly interested in putting in a stove jack in it...I'd like the versatility.

[jackelope]

Big thread on Rokslide re: the mountainsmith with a stove. Consider it cozy for 1 person at that point.

[cvandervort]

thanks Jackelope....I'll check it out.
Any ideas on the hoopla with a jack?

[fillthefreezer]

thanks Jackelope....I'll check it out.
Any ideas on the hoopla with a jack?

not with a jack but muleman on RS did a pretty good write up on the hoopla vs a few similar tents. might glean the necessary info from that

[cvandervort]

Thanks ftf...I think I remember seeing that. Might just have to try it out. I like the LT, but with a stove I may be limiting myself...

[Andrew]

I bought the Hoopla 4 last year for the high hunt...it's a good shelter, I say that cause it is by no means a tent, but I'm sure you realize this.  I was a bit nervous when the winds ramped up to 40 mph and we had a 'few' gusts of 60+ mph.  We did take on a bit of water when it started to rain really hard!  I purchased the floor accessory and it was worth it.  Setup is really easy, I purchased a "mega pole" (I believe that is what it is called) based on the advise from Backcountry Essential owner who said he's had a hiking pole snap when used with a shelter.  It weighs just over 3 pounds with the floor and the mega pole, but it is so much roomier than a 2 person tent; which we would not have been able to get our gear inside during that storm had we taken it.  It says it's good for 4, but I'd say if you where in a pinch, good for three, super comfy for 2.

[cvandervort]

Perfect! Thanks for the rundown!
I'm looking for a floorless shelter for 2-3 that I can run a stove in...it sounds like the hoopla might fit the bill.

[cvandervort]

Where'd you get the water coming in from? Seams at the hoop? Under the walls?

[Andrew]

It was two problems...a bit of rain would enter the vent hole at the top which would run down the sides and condensation building up.  When a good gust would hit us it wanted to suck the tent upward when it subsided it snapped the walls and all the moisture would spray us.  Again, this was probably the worst storm that I've ever tented in in 20+ years!  I would expect any tent to have issues as we did.  Obviously you can minimize the condensation by allowing more venting, but during that storm it was batten down all the hatches mode.  If you ran a stove how would you flash the top around the pipe?  Could you run it through the vent?  BTW - I've seen the Hoopla for sale twice on Back Country.com for under a 100!

[cvandervort]

They sell jacks that you can sew in...that's the route I'd go...
I've found them for 169, plus a 30% off coupon. I'll check out the site.
Thanks!

[Wanttohuntmore]

Check out the go lite sl5.

[cvandervort]

Do you have any experience with it? I've read some reviews.

[fillthefreezer]

Do you have any experience with it? I've read some reviews.

yes, i ran it for 2 seasons. its a very good shelter.