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tagging Q
« on: July 08, 2014, 10:22:04 AM »
So lets say my bull is down. I've quartered him out and ready to pack him out. Im solo so ill be packing it all back to the truck alone. Which should I pack out first? Rack or meat. Does my tag stay with the rack or with the meat.

Also how do you secure the rack back at camp?
Im a modern hunter so weather should be cool. But how do you guys keep your meat. Ill have coolers with blocks of ice at the truck
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 10:24:14 AM »
Always the meat. In AK, I believe it's the law. The tag goes with the largest portion.
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 10:29:06 AM »
The tag stays on the largest piece of the animal.

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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 10:33:37 AM »
Yep, WDFW regs state "If quartered, the tag should remain with the carcass or largest portion of the carcass. If you need to take the head to a taxidermist and the meat to be processed, you can complete a taxidermy ledger or invoice, providing information outlined under "Possession and Use of Wildlife" for the taxidermist, and keep the tag with the meat at the processor."  I take the rack, straps, loins out first "normally".  This way, if brer bear or wolves have staked claim to my boned out meat bags (or quarters), I at least have the rack and loins/straps out already.  That's just me.  Most folks I know are more concerned with getting the majority of the meat out before they worry about the headgear.  I just put a black sack around the skull cap of the rack and hide it in the brush by camp.  Each evening after the hunt, I'll work on taking all the flesh/hair off the cap so it doesn't begin rotting in the bag.  Boned out meat will go into the coolers with block ice and transported to processor as soon as possible. 
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 12:06:12 PM »
Thanks guys. Hope this scenario plays out this fall
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 03:53:58 PM »
 It may be illegal but with public hunting for elk in WA being what it is I carry my tag with me on each trip. When I'm done getting the animal out I attach it to the largest portion or the antlers. I don't trust anyone!

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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 04:20:49 PM »
yep righty or wrong the tag gets notched and goes in my pack til all is out . then the tag goes with the meat . remember that if you cut the horns off the carcass has to have evidence of sex attached to it .

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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 05:02:42 PM »
yep righty or wrong the tag gets notched and goes in my pack til all is out . then the tag goes with the meat . remember that if you cut the horns off the carcass has to have evidence of sex attached to it .
What if im packing out the whole head
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2014, 06:52:12 AM »
It may be illegal but with public hunting for elk in WA being what it is I carry my tag with me on each trip. When I'm done getting the animal out I attach it to the largest portion or the antlers. I don't trust anyone!

It is illegal and you run the risk of being ticketed for not tagging the critter. This is justified because you could later claim losing your tag and get a replacement tag to kill another animal.
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2014, 06:59:16 AM »
This whole leaving proof of sex attached has me confused.  Isn't a fresh skull and antlers proof of sex? Why would I want to pack out anything more than i need too? 
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2014, 07:30:33 AM »
 :yeah:   Thought if I had intact head I could quarter and leave the rest behind?

If one must, do you leave a little skin and proof of sex on one quarter?   
Kinda difficult if you bone it out. 
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2014, 07:39:10 AM »
Even if boned out you still technically still need to leave evidence of sex attached to a large portion of meat to be completely legal. Personally ill take the citation if a warden wants to make that much fuss about it. Im not leaving a nut on my quarter or piece of quarter.  :chuckle:

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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 07:46:24 AM »
The following says to me that any evidence of sex must be attached to the carcass, including the head. This seems ridiculous as it would be easy to prove a match between the head and body with DNA testing, which is used in almost all big game violation/poaching cases.

From page 81 of the big game regs:

"3. Evidence of Animal's Sex:
It is illegal to possess or transport big
game animals unless evidence of the
animal's sex is left naturally attached to
the carcass until the carcass is processed
or stored for consumption. Evidence of
sex means:

••Male - head with antlers or horns
attached or penis or testes any of
which must be naturally attached to
at least one quarter of the carcass or to
the largest portion of meat.

••Female - the head or udder must
be naturally attached to at least one
quarter of the carcass or to the largest
portion of meat.

Big game taken in antler or horn
restriction areas: The head or skull plate,
with both horns or both antlers naturally
attached, must accompany the carcass
while in transit or in possession.
The feathered heads of game birds must
be attached to the carcass when they
are in your possession in the field or are
being transported."
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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2014, 07:31:18 PM »
I think I remember a thread where some1 was asking BigTex about this proof of sex thing. It used to be worded so weird I think it was open to interpretation of the officer. If your packing out a rack that should be proof enough. I never leave his frank and beans attached.
I make a photo copy for the taxi & leave original with meat

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Re: tagging Q
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2014, 06:44:02 AM »
The regulation has been rewritten to be less ambiguous. I think it's ridiculous that the head or penis or testes be attached to a quarter, but that's how this reads now. Someone who takes an animal will likely have pictures and if a gamie thinks something is afoul of the law, they can take DNA samples and often do. The head by itself should be enough.
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