Burning up

[bullcanyon]

I drew a tag for that neck of the woods this year.   I'll still go give it a shot and if it doesn't look good I won't be too far from good whitetail ground.  Be kinda selfish to be upset about it burning with all these families going through what they are right now. 

[OutdoorsJen]

http://vimeo.com/101148473#at=0

They posted a part two to this video.  There are some deer at the beginning.

[boneaddict]

This is really hard to look at, I was born in Twisp, we moved away when I was young. My Dad had the Shell Bulk Plant in Twisp and delivered gas, stove oil, diesel to the upper valley, when the mill shut down things were tough

Um, this sounds like my life.   And you are?

[no.cen.wa]

I'll PM you

[Hermit]

I have 120 year old trees that look like burnt matchsticks. They won't grow back in a couple years. This is much worst than the bebe bridge fire. I have 5 or 6 deer laying in some marshy ground above Brewster. Nothing to eat for miles. I'll probably bring them some hay in a week or two. I traveled 30 or 40 miles thru complete devestation. It will take the deer years to recover. Anyone that differs needs to take a look for themselves.

[boneaddict]

Seeing/hearing a lot of burned livestock.  I wonder how many animals got caught in this thing.  It did run at a feverish pace and was a wall of fire for miles.     I wonder how many burned up.   I would imagine the Methow River will be lined with animals as its banks might be the only thing that didn't burn completely.   

[Skyvalhunter]

Shall see if the WDFW does something similar to what the did up the Entiat in the 80's after the fire and opened it up to doe hunting where they were going to let 900 does be harvested only to have around 2000 taken. Will the state learn from past experiences.

[bigmacc]

Shall see if the WDFW does something similar to what the did up the Entiat in the 80's after the fire and opened it up to doe hunting where they were going to let 900 does be harvested only to have around 2000 taken. Will the state learn from past experiences.

I hope they learned.

[bobcat]

Shall see if the WDFW does something similar to what the did up the Entiat in the 80's after the fire and opened it up to doe hunting where they were going to let 900 does be harvested only to have around 2000 taken. Will the state learn from past experiences.

What is it they need to do then, in your opinion?

[Elkaholic daWg]

Shall see if the WDFW does something similar to what the did up the Entiat in the 80's after the fire and opened it up to doe hunting where they were going to let 900 does be harvested only to have around 2000 taken. Will the state learn from past experiences.

I hope they learned.

 I remember..... Show up at Game Dept office  (Wenatchee)Sunday morning, get paperwork Head up on mountain. Opener Monday morning. They planned on keeping it open thru Wednesday, but as a Chelan Co deputy was checking our deer at about 11;30 AM word came over his radio of immediate closure.

[no.cen.wa]

Just some history,
1994, Tyee fire 180,000 acres about 37 structures, started July 24th
2001, 30 Mile fire 9300 acres no structures, but 4 deaths, started July 9th
2006 Tripod fire 175,000 acres no structures, started July 4th
and of course many many more.
Having spent some time in the 30 mile and Tripod area it is interesting to see fire behavor, wind plays the biggest factor as a fire moves. It will blow up a canyon and burn every thing in it, or I have seen it blow up a canyon on one side and switch to the other side leaving the opposite side completly untouched. Sometimes go to the top of completly burned ridge to see the other side was not burned at all. Lets hope for the best, I'm sure many animals have perished, just hope for best.
     John

[Skyvalhunter]

You will find there is quite a few of us on here that are ex firefighters. A great summer job and if you choose that to be your career then many thanks to you.

[boneaddict]

 



Contrary to the picture Fitkin paints, the population of deer in the burned areas(at least the Chiliwist) are at the lowest I have ever seen anyways, so I suppose that would make this less catastrophic than it could be.   

[TwoSixFourWins]

If there were more fires more often the fuel loads could not build up as bad as they do and the fires would be less severe. Many of the large trees would survive, underbrush and dead falls would be less dense, and the pines that  require fire to open the cones would flourish. When the fuel loads build up as much as they do now the cones get scorched, the ground is sterilized and even the trees with thicker bark burn. Fire is not inherently bad for an ecosystem, in fact there are many whose species depend on it to remain healthy. The early part of the 20th century the thought process was to stamp out any fire as soon as possible which in time lead to massive fuel loads so that when a burn occurs it totally sterilizes an area rather than burning off the dead organic matter and leaving the living organic matter to thrive. There is a lot of information out on prescribed burning and how it benefits the ecosystem as a whole which means more critters to hunt.

[wsmnut]

Contrary to the picture Fitkin paints, the population of deer in the burned areas(at least the Chiliwist) are at the lowest I have ever seen anyways, so I suppose that would make this less catastrophic than it could be.

I suspect  what we will get from the wolf lover will be some GMU closures.  Starting with the Chiliwist.  Maybe some partials, Alta and Pearygin, etc.
     Now is the time for real science to be used to aid the recovery of the deer herd.

Wsmnut