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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2014, 10:09:55 AM »
I know in this thread you are asking for opinions but it sounded like you pretty much had your mind made up in the classifieds.

I agree.  Go buy what you want and who cares what I think! 

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2014, 10:18:47 AM »
I have a pretty good idea of what I want. I'm making sure I'm just not going straight for something with out consideration of other rifles. I'm loving all of these opinions guys! I think I've narrowed it down to 7mm rum 300rum and 300wsm. What do you guys think out of these three calibers. I might think About a 338 also. The 257 wby is a sweet rifle just not pushing the bullets I want.
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2014, 10:29:06 AM »
 :) Keep your best 270, and step up, no sense going for a 7mm or 300, get at least a 338.
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« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2014, 10:37:45 AM »
Good for you for passing on these pansy whipped calibers. You need at least a .375 Holland & Holland magnum to shoot like a man.  Every year, too many hunters take afield their grand dad's .30-06 and just can't seem to put deer down due to the lack of power. If the H&H can't get it done, come back and see us and we'll talk about a .458 Lott or something.

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2014, 10:39:10 AM »
To answer some questions. I am looking for a gun that will easily shoot 700+ yards! kill an elk at 500. And not be to potent for mule deer. @radsav I like the way you think! What's the opinion on a 7mm rum? Or 7mm stw

Wasteful...but that's just me ;) 

Sounds to me like you really want a max powder burn rifle.  If that's what you want buy one.  You can afford to take crazy risks at 18!  That's how you learn life's most valuable lessons.

What does age have to do with it?

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2014, 10:42:44 AM »
Alright that's it I'm buying a 416 rigby  :chuckle:. Just read the the 7mm rum is a dying breed :dunno: was thinking it would be a cool gun. That narrows it down I guess :dunno:. Any thoughts on how the 7mm rum is doing before I write it off?
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2014, 11:03:57 AM »
There is a .338 Lapua for sale in the classifieds.  Sako rifle if I remember right...........might be worth consideration. :dunno:

 
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2014, 01:44:32 PM »
as a couple of you know, I am a 270 Winny fan!!

Here is the deal. I thought long and hard about my current build, and am glad I did it. I also gound that if I truelly want more performance than what my 270 will do I MUST step up to a mimimum of a 338L...or possibly a 300RUM with 230 Grain Bergers

A 270 shooting a bullet with a G1 BC of over .6 is wicked (there are currently two bullets out there like this Matrix 165 with a .638 and Nosler 150 ABLR with a .625)

The ABLR will stabilize in a 1-10 twist barrel, and a good reloader should be able to get 2900 FPS with it ( I have a 27" tube and am getting 3000 FPS)

The Matrix will stabilize in a 1-9 twist tube, I am getting 2850 with these. I ran the dope for this load and well, it's running almost identical trajectory as a 300 Mag shooting 210's (actually the 270 has about 25 yards more supersonic range)

Which is why if I want more, it's time for a 338 LApua, or possibly a 300 RUM shooting 230 grain Bergers.

IMHO, going to a big magnum for better performance under 500 yards is a waste. One would be better served with better shot placement, and a basic 308, or a  270 with 130's and even standard 150's


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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2014, 01:49:52 PM »
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IMHO, going to a big magnum for better performance under 500 yards is a waste. One would be better served with better shot placement, and a basic 308, or a  270 with 130's and even standard 150's

Well said. Also, if you want to reach out to 500-1,000 yards, you'd better put some nice glass in that ultra mag

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2014, 01:53:03 PM »
well, if I ever built that, I would go with some offering from March, or a NF BEAST

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2014, 01:56:52 PM »
For the average person who does not reload I recommend a 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag as an all around magnum big game rifle. Unless you reload the less popular magnums will cost you an arm and leg to shoot and the gain in ballistics is not that much to justify buying expensive cartridges.

I didn't read all the comments and may have missed it, if you reload then that's a whole different story, there are lots of possibilities as everyone has suggested.  :chuckle:
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2014, 02:15:14 PM »
Wanting to match the rifle with a vortex viper HS LR 6-24x50
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2014, 02:33:35 PM »
If I were you, I would take that $1,800 and

1) put $1,000 into glass for your 270
2) put $800 into professional training and ammunition

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2014, 02:53:29 PM »
as a couple of you know, I am a 270 Winny fan!!

Here is the deal. I thought long and hard about my current build, and am glad I did it. I also gound that if I truelly want more performance than what my 270 will do I MUST step up to a mimimum of a 338L...or possibly a 300RUM with 230 Grain Bergers

A 270 shooting a bullet with a G1 BC of over .6 is wicked (there are currently two bullets out there like this Matrix 165 with a .638 and Nosler 150 ABLR with a .625)

The ABLR will stabilize in a 1-10 twist barrel, and a good reloader should be able to get 2900 FPS with it ( I have a 27" tube and am getting 3000 FPS)

The Matrix will stabilize in a 1-9 twist tube, I am getting 2850 with these. I ran the dope for this load and well, it's running almost identical trajectory as a 300 Mag shooting 210's (actually the 270 has about 25 yards more supersonic range)

Which is why if I want more, it's time for a 338 LApua, or possibly a 300 RUM shooting 230 grain Bergers.

IMHO, going to a big magnum for better performance under 500 yards is a waste. One would be better served with better shot placement, and a basic 308, or a  270 with 130's and even standard 150's

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.....only thing is even tho the numbers are the same its hard to compare what a extra 50grains of bullets exploding inside of a critter will do...but thats if your shooting bergers...if you wana just poke holes in stuff it really wont matter

Such a simple question  :chuckle:

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2014, 03:12:44 PM »
Anyone know anything about the 7mm rum
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