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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2014, 03:16:07 PM »
Anyone know anything about the 7mm rum

all my reloading books say it eats barrels...

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #61 on: July 22, 2014, 03:17:43 PM »
Fast and flat, and burns a lot of powder.

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #62 on: July 22, 2014, 03:18:01 PM »
I would suggest sending a pm to 7mmfan. He came by and picked up some brass on Sunday....really sounds like he knows that cal.

For what its worth....here is my take on your dilema. If you have the cash then go for whatever floats your boat. Eventually  youwill have less cash, less time, less energy, less endurance for the punishment, less stamina to hump a big boy rifle all over to hell and back....and lots of excuses why not. You wan't a big boom big boy mag get to it and don't look back. Live it up and protect your ears!

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #63 on: July 22, 2014, 03:26:20 PM »
as a couple of you know, I am a 270 Winny fan!!

Here is the deal. I thought long and hard about my current build, and am glad I did it. I also gound that if I truelly want more performance than what my 270 will do I MUST step up to a mimimum of a 338L...or possibly a 300RUM with 230 Grain Bergers

A 270 shooting a bullet with a G1 BC of over .6 is wicked (there are currently two bullets out there like this Matrix 165 with a .638 and Nosler 150 ABLR with a .625)

The ABLR will stabilize in a 1-10 twist barrel, and a good reloader should be able to get 2900 FPS with it ( I have a 27" tube and am getting 3000 FPS)

The Matrix will stabilize in a 1-9 twist tube, I am getting 2850 with these. I ran the dope for this load and well, it's running almost identical trajectory as a 300 Mag shooting 210's (actually the 270 has about 25 yards more supersonic range)

Which is why if I want more, it's time for a 338 LApua, or possibly a 300 RUM shooting 230 grain Bergers.

IMHO, going to a big magnum for better performance under 500 yards is a waste. One would be better served with better shot placement, and a basic 308, or a  270 with 130's and even standard 150's

Pretty much my thoughts exactly.....only thing is even tho the numbers are the same its hard to compare what a extra 50grains of bullets exploding inside of a critter will do...but thats if your shooting bergers...if you wana just poke holes in stuff it really wont matter

Such a simple question  :chuckle:

agreed!!

270 only has 1000 foot pounds @ 1000 yards. The 300 Mag definately has more

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2014, 03:28:29 PM »
I sent 7mmfan a message. I've read it burns a barrel in 600-1000 rds
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #65 on: July 22, 2014, 03:38:48 PM »
Anyone know anything about the 7mm rum

I have read that is one of the RUMs that fell short.  It didn't offer a big enough difference in trajectory or velocity over the other options for 7mm mags.  I should say that I think thats what I read regarding the 7mm RUM, it could have been one of the other RUMs.  If you have a reloading book, the write ups on the different calibers are very helpful for gain unbiased advice.
This may also be helpful...
http://www.chuckhawks.com/7mmRem_Ultra_Mag.htm

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2014, 03:46:38 PM »
I think www.gunwerks.com (?) in Wyoming uses the 7mm quite a bit. email them for info.
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2014, 03:47:50 PM »
 Why not the best of both worlds shane, go with the 7mm/300wsm, send jjhunter a PM, I think you will find he loves his. ;)

 I've got another buddy building one right now too.

 Here is a link http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek071.html that will explain a little bit about it. :tup:



 
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2014, 04:45:33 PM »
Buy a 300 win and be done with it. It's a very versatile caliber.
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2014, 07:28:49 PM »
:) Keep your best 270, and step up, no sense going for a 7mm or 300, get at least a 338.
Carl

This is some of the best advice you'll get! :tup:

As soon as you mentioned elk, the 338 became the most logical choice. The fast 7mm mags are great for long range shooting and medium (deer) sized critters, but when you get into elk at any range the 338 really shines. For everything else, the 270 will work.

Being a fan of impractically large, overbore chamberings, the 7mm RUM is always a good choice. Out to your 700 yard range though I don't think it's necessary. The 7 WSM will do it just as well and with less trouble. When you get into the small bore RUMs (7mm and 300) they can be finicky to load for. Heavy bullets at top speed are the best in the big cases or else they can become inconsistent.

If you want to really step up from the 270, I'd go straight to a case capable of throwing 250gr or heavier bullets at over 2700 fps. 500 yards is pretty far, but not exactly into the "holy cow I need a laser guided bullet to make that hit" range. :chuckle: As far as just a "plinking" gun for out to, and well beyond, 700 yards a 338 Win Mag will do pretty well when loaded with some of the 250gr bullets. I shoot my 338/375 Ruger Striker to 800 yards with the 250gr MK and that duplicates the performance of a 338 Win Mag from a rifle. The combination is capable of going well beyond that, I just have other guns for shooting 1000 + yards.

Or if you really just want to step up to the big boys, then ignore the 7mm, 30, and 338 rounds all together. The 375s are when it starts to get really interesting! Get your hands on some of the 350gr Sierra MKs and stuff them into a 375 RUM case (or something bigger :tup:) and go have some real fun!

Enjoy the searching, planning, and investigating. It's more fun actually shooting the gun if you ask me. :chuckle:

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2014, 07:37:59 PM »
.240 wby mag. Fun fast and kills the same as the rest.

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2014, 08:39:59 PM »
Shane,

Clearly you are a man and want a true man's rifle.   Therefore, ignore any of the advice about pansy rounds like a 300 RUM or 416.

My advice:   Do it right!

Get one of these and be done.   remember:   More power, more powder!!!!

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And remember:   Nobody has EVER punched an elk in the shoulder with a 20mm Ack Ack round and had it get away......   Ever.

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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2014, 08:52:01 PM »
@dano a little underpowered. Could only use it for black tail.
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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2014, 08:57:54 PM »
My 110 lb Daughter shoots my 338 ultra mag  w/ brake. 250 grn 2900fpa


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Re: What magnum do you suggest for a teen?
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2014, 09:01:32 PM »
 :drool: only if ammo prices were around 60 I would get a 338rum
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