Wolf in klickitat

[pianoman9701]

Three or four separate occasions I have seen a wolf. Not one of the times was I able to get my cell phone or camera out in time to take a photo. The second time I did have confirmation from someone else who also saw the wolf, that it was indeed a wolf. That time the wolf ran across the road in front of me, slinking from one side to the other like a rat. It obviously could smell us and was trying to be as inconspicuous as possible. On a logging road it takes one second for a wolf to cross. On a two lane road maybe two seconds. Two seconds is not enough time to get your phone out of your pocket, enter your password, choose your camera app, focus and take a shot. No way. I saw what looked like a wolf cross in front of me on Spirit Lake Highway last week. Totally freaked me out. I was looking out for deer, driving up to Silver Lake, just passed a dead deer on the side of the road, something ran across the road in front of me, it was big like a deer but dark, didn't run like a deer. Saw it in silhouette crossing the road, maybe it was a dog but it wasn't near a house. By the time I pulled over at the side of the road it was gone. Turned around and went back but there was no sign of it.  I know what I saw. Just because you didn't take a picture of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. What if that was the level of proof we required for automobile accidents? 'Officer he ran a red light.' 'Did you take a picture of it?' 'No there wasn't time.' 'Well then I guess he didn't run a red light, did he?' You can't always take a picture of what you see. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The person I was responding to was talking about WDFW employees releasing wolves. When a truck pulls up and people are releasing animals this is no instant happening. It would take some time to accomplish. I have little doubt that wolves are in the southern Cascades. How they got there is another question altogether.

[westside bull]

What about the wolves around the Teanaway they just cross all that land and make there home there come on don't tell me they didn't get dumped off there!!

[woodswalker]

It's amazing what we did before cells phones and technology

Its actually faster to get a good  35mm film camera into action than my cell phone camera.  I used to drive in the woods with the 35mm sitting on the seat next to me focused to infinity and set for a fast shutter speed or in auto mode.

[Curly]

What about the wolves around the Teanaway they just cross all that land and make there home there come on don't tell me they didn't get dumped off there!!

Why is it so hard to believe that they couldn't make their way there?  Wouldn't be that difficult.

You ever take a look at how much ground OR-7 covered?  He traveled the length of Oregon and into CA and then back up through Oregon.  I can't remember where he is now, but last I heard he found a mate in North Central Oregon I think.  Anyway, he shows just how much ground they can cover when they want to.

[billythekidrock]

What about the wolves around the Teanaway they just cross all that land and make there home there come on don't tell me they didn't get dumped off there!!

Why is it so hard to believe that they couldn't make their way there?  Wouldn't be that difficult.

You ever take a look at how much ground OR-7 covered?  He traveled the length of Oregon and into CA and then back up through Oregon.  I can't remember where he is now, but last I heard he found a mate in North Central Oregon I think.  Anyway, he shows just how much ground they can cover when they want to.

 

[westside bull]

Not saying they can't make it on there own but all of a sudden a few years back there's wolves on the teanaway really and nobody dumped them off right 

[Curly]

What makes it "all of a sudden" that they were found there?  Wolves have been in this state for a long, long, time.  A lot just travel through back and forth from Canada in the past.  Maybe they just felt like taking up residence there.  I just don't see how one can simply jump to the conclusion that they had to be dropped off? 

[westside bull]

So why is it so hard to think WDFW hasn't never moved wolves around they do with cougar's and bear's all the time do you think they will really tell the general public they do what they want!

[pianoman9701]

There's a huge difference between catch and release of problem animals and introducing a predator to new habitat. One is the re-release and re-location of existing critters. The other is bringing new critters into an area. The first requires no legislative or Congressional review. The other requires both, and only after EISs have been performed and then, quarantines to verify healthy animals are being used. Wolves travel great distances unless you believe in Red Riding Hood and a wolf who only stays around a certain bend in a thick black forest. They've been emanating out from the GYA since 1996. It's not even a stretch to think that they've been able to move 1K miles in 18 years when we know of instances where they've moved a third of that distance in a matter of weeks.

But, the point is moot. The wolf plan was accepted and the southern Cascades is included in it for one pack. We knew they'd eventually be there and that their existence there is necessary for the plan to complete and management to commence. For me, I wish they'd transplant the remaining requirements so we can start shooting these eating machines now.

[westside bull]

If you really think WDFW is going to get the ok on what happens out in the woods and go threw all these steps what Regional office do you work at ?? HAHA..

[pianoman9701]

If you really think WDFW is going to get the ok on what happens out in the woods and go threw all these steps what Regional office do you work at ?? HAHA..

You obviously aren't very active in this forum or you'd know how bizarre that suggestion is. The WDFW doesn't like me very much. I'm only saying that wolves are here to stay. The sooner we reach plan goals, the sooner we can start killing wolves.

[jasnt]

What makes it "all of a sudden" that they were found there?  Wolves have been in this state for a long, long, time.  A lot just travel through back and forth from Canada in the past.  Maybe they just felt like taking up residence there.  I just don't see how one can simply jump to the conclusion that they had to be dropped off? 

uh probably because that's how they got to other places.  They released them in Yellowstone, Idaho,Montana ,ECT. So why is it so hard to believe they haven't done it here. Im sure plenty have traveled here but not all.

[bobcat]

It's hard to believe because there is an extensive legal process they would be required to go through, before releasing wolves in this state. Just as they had to do in all the other states. Never did they secretly release wolves in those other states. And it's extremely unlikely they would have done so here,

Like I said before. Read the wolf plan. Does it say anything about wolves being released in Washington? No? Then it didn't happen.

[westside bull]

What makes it "all of a sudden" that they were found there?  Wolves have been in this state for a long, long, time.  A lot just travel through back and forth from Canada in the past.  Maybe they just felt like taking up residence there.  I just don't see how one can simply jump to the conclusion that they had to be dropped off? 

uh probably because that's how they got to other places.  They released them in Yellowstone, Idaho,Montana ,ECT. So why is it so hard to believe they haven't done it here. Im sure plenty have traveled here but not all.

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