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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2014, 07:44:22 AM »
The bear baiting law was combined with the hound hunting law when it passed.  No law is to address two separate issues and that would make the baiting law unconstitutional.  I know one judge agreed and dropped charges in a baiting case.  I think it was Lewis county.

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2014, 07:56:20 AM »
I know! Twinkie's have been a disappointment lately. Now if I could just find me a six pack of JOLT to make up for it. :rolleyes:

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Reading this thread has me thinking this bear baiting thing might be big business.  And as a businessman it's got me thinking how I can benefit from this.  Do you think the WDFW would get upset if I had the M&M folks make me some that look like elk and deer turds so I could sell them to those wanting to bait incognito?  How many gamies and phone ringers are going to bend over and taste it just to make sure it's not one of RadSav's Baiting Turds!  I'd be so rich I could afford a whole carton of miniature Twinkies and call myself an Entrée-Manure  :IBCOOL:


Guess I should be careful or I might never draw a special permit or a multi-season deer tag...oh wait... :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: I really do not understand why people just do not get off the beaten path ...you may have something here RadSav  :dunno: :tup:

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2014, 08:12:20 AM »
How many would feel the same way if they stumbled upon a wolf bait?  :chuckle:

I would say that is absolutely without a doubt coyote bait! :tup:

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2014, 08:13:04 AM »
Now if I got OIL tag preference points for reporting them... :chuckle:
Bonus points are given only for deer and elk. Turning in someone who is baiting bear illegally would qualify.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-291

6. Citizen reward for reporting violations - bonus points: A person who provides information which contributes substantially to the arrest of another person for illegally hunting or killing big game or an endangered species as defined by Title 77 RCW is eligible to receive ten bonus points toward the special hunting permit drawing for one application category of deer or elk special hunting season permits.

Is reporting a bait site really contributing substantially to the arrest of another person for illegally hunting or killing big game?  I seriously doubt it is.  If it is,  maybe I will report the next one I come across during elk season  :dunno:
It depends on the officer but I've known it to happen (points being awarded for turning in a bear baiter.)
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2014, 08:51:58 AM »
Now if I got OIL tag preference points for reporting them... :chuckle:
Bonus points are given only for deer and elk. Turning in someone who is baiting bear illegally would qualify.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-291

6. Citizen reward for reporting violations - bonus points: A person who provides information which contributes substantially to the arrest of another person for illegally hunting or killing big game or an endangered species as defined by Title 77 RCW is eligible to receive ten bonus points toward the special hunting permit drawing for one application category of deer or elk special hunting season permits.

Is reporting a bait site really contributing substantially to the arrest of another person for illegally hunting or killing big game?  I seriously doubt it is.  If it is,  maybe I will report the next one I come across during elk season  :dunno:
It depends on the officer but I've known it to happen (points being awarded for turning in a bear baiter.)

I think that "er" makes all the difference.  Report a bait -vs- turn in a bear baiter.  I can understand the later.
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2014, 05:26:53 PM »
I thought it was legal to bait bear as long as you aren't hunting over it. Am I missing something?

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2014, 06:27:08 PM »
I thought it was legal to bait bear as long as you aren't hunting over it. Am I missing something?
You may wish to read through this thread.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=52633.0

And then, read this: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.792


RCW 77.15.792
Intentionally feeding or attempting to feed large wild carnivores or intentionally attracting large wild carnivores to land or a building — Penalty.

(1) A person may not intentionally feed or attempt to feed large wild carnivores or intentionally attract large wild carnivores to land or a building.

     (2) A person who intentionally feeds, attempts to feed, or attracts large wild carnivores to land or a building is guilty of a misdemeanor.

     (3) A person who is issued an infraction under RCW 77.15.790 for negligently feeding, attempting to feed, or attracting large wild carnivores to land or a building, and who fails to contain, move, or remove the food, food waste, or other substance within twenty-four hours of being issued the infraction, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2014, 06:32:24 PM »
I have a hard time with timber companies being able to bait bears and we cannot.  Law is the law (unless you're big business?)

end the damage permits and if the timber companies want bears gone allow hunters on the property.


Same for farmers and Elk for that matter

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2014, 06:54:36 PM »
end the damage permits and if the timber companies want bears gone allow hunters on the property.
Some do, and charge you hundreds of dollars for the privilege. :bash:
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2014, 07:09:08 PM »
Baiting is unnecessary, wasteful, and lazy in my opinion. Proper scouting and responsible hunting is the only way to go. Good on you for reporting it!
I don't think baiting is wasteful or lazy.  Baiters go to a lot of work to get bears to come in.  They have to pack in all that stuff regularly; I've never baited but I am certain baiters are not lazy. It looks like an awful lot of work. And what part of baiting is wasteful?

Now, it may be unnecessary,  but what does it hurt, except that it is illegal?

With all that said,  I could go either way on reporting a bait site. I don't like some people just disregarding certain laws even though they are stupid laws.
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2014, 07:12:32 PM »
Baiting is unnecessary, wasteful, and lazy in my opinion. Proper scouting and responsible hunting is the only way to go. Good on you for reporting it!
I don't think baiting is wasteful or lazy.  Baiters go to a lot of work to get bears to come in.  They have to pack in all that stuff regularly; I've never baited but I am certain baiters are not lazy. It looks like an awful lot of work. And what part of baiting is wasteful?

Now, it may be unnecessary,  but what does it hurt, except that it is illegal?

With all that said,  I could go either way on reporting a bait site. I don't like some people just disregarding certain laws even though they are stupid laws.

What's lazy is sitting on a berry patch waiting for a bear to walk in. 

Utilizing mother natures bounty as natural bait,  now THAT'S lazy!

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2014, 07:15:52 PM »
Baiting is unnecessary, wasteful, and lazy in my opinion. Proper scouting and responsible hunting is the only way to go. Good on you for reporting it!
I don't think baiting is wasteful or lazy.  Baiters go to a lot of work to get bears to come in.  They have to pack in all that stuff regularly; I've never baited but I am certain baiters are not lazy. It looks like an awful lot of work. And what part of baiting is wasteful?

Now, it may be unnecessary,  but what does it hurt, except that it is illegal?

With all that said,  I could go either way on reporting a bait site. I don't like some people just disregarding certain laws even though they are stupid laws.

fatten them bears up like a prime steer.

Shame to bait bear with garbage, use good feed and you can change the way a bear tastes.


Even them nasty coastal cabbage weed fish bears,  you bait them with good feed for a few months and you'd never know they ever ate a rotten fish.

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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2014, 07:17:18 PM »
Baiting is unnecessary, wasteful, and lazy in my opinion. Proper scouting and responsible hunting is the only way to go. Good on you for reporting it!
I don't think baiting is wasteful or lazy.  Baiters go to a lot of work to get bears to come in.  They have to pack in all that stuff regularly; I've never baited but I am certain baiters are not lazy. It looks like an awful lot of work. And what part of baiting is wasteful?

Now, it may be unnecessary,  but what does it hurt, except that it is illegal?

With all that said,  I could go either way on reporting a bait site. I don't like some people just disregarding certain laws even though they are stupid laws.

What's lazy is sitting on a berry patch waiting for a bear to walk in. 

Utilizing mother natures bounty as natural bait,  now THAT'S lazy!

Lots of hunting could be categorized as lazy work....sitting and glassing, taking an afternoon drive, sitting in a tree stand... Who cares!

If guys are so excited to allow some  knucklehead to abandon normal legal hunting practices and bait in bears, can they also shoot after dark? I mean, what is the difference? A little spotlight to help make sure of a "safe" game ID and shot placement, I mean, what's the big deal?
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2014, 07:22:22 PM »
Could be a Tribal member bait site.  :dunno:
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Re: Reporting bear baiting
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2014, 07:23:56 PM »
Steelywhopper, pretty sure the OP said somewhere that he did not believe it was tribal based upon the location of the site...
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