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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2014, 09:13:20 AM »
The main problem is to many people going into the woods. Seemed only 10-15 yes ago this issue of holding your spot until the season started did not exist? :dunno: Great society we live in now a days. Can't trust know one and always being told by the man when and what we can do..... I'm going to go listen to Hank Jr. song Johnny Reb..... :bash:
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2014, 09:14:46 AM »
This reminds me of all the city folk who set up crappy old lawn chairs along a parade route 4 days before the parade. Just about the same difference to me. ;)
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2014, 09:31:49 AM »
The main problem is to many people going into the woods. Seemed only 10-15 yes ago this issue of holding your spot until the season started did not exist? :dunno: Great society we live in now a days. Can't trust know one and always being told by the man when and what we can do..... I'm going to go listen to Hank Jr. song Johnny Reb..... :bash:

Yep, and even more will be going onto public lands to hunt this year with WEYCO, Rayonier, Hancock, and others going pay to play everywhere. I don't think it's any reflection on the decay of society. I think more it's a reflection of increased usage by society and that rules need to be in place to make sure everyone gets a fair chance to enjoy the outdoors for which we all pay (or at least those of us who actually do pay federal income tax).
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2014, 11:17:28 AM »
A big problem I see where I hunt is berry picker camps that are set up middle of August and don't leave until end of September. My favorite hunting camp spot is usually taken due to them. I would be worried about stuff missing before I got there if I set up camp early.

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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2014, 11:50:19 AM »
A big problem I see where I hunt is berry picker camps that are set up middle of August and don't leave until end of September. My favorite hunting camp spot is usually taken due to them. I would be worried about stuff missing before I got there if I set up camp early.

According to the response i got back, if you can show they've been there more than 14 days, you can get the ranger to make them move at least 5 miles away. Of course, once you move in, you'd better not leave camp to go hunting!
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2014, 12:03:45 PM »
lol so after rereading this thread it turns out i wasn't raised correctly...that i steal from the public....its okay for the public to raid my camp if im not there...


i remember one year in idaho an gammie *censored* started going from camp to camp cuz we had been there past our ten or what ever days.....she got fired.....*censored*


any one of you that think this is big enough deal to complain about, i hope you to keep track of the camps that are past there allotted amount of time and confront them with the legal paper work, then post up a report on how it went for ya here on hunt wa.....there is reason why this isn't enforced

pianoman obviously you feel strongly bout this, i have nothing against ya, but this is just a part of hunting......and hunting has been around way longer than a slip of paper that some flat lander conjured up in Olympia
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2014, 12:08:07 PM »
What are you suggesting by " *censored* "?
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2014, 12:13:17 PM »
Wow, is it time to go hunting yet?  8)
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2014, 12:13:47 PM »
Feeling entitled to a spot just because you leave a tent on it doesn't make it so. You're not entitled to it unless you're there.

According to this logic, if you're out on your morning hunt I can go to your camp site, move all your stuff and set up my own site.  Your not entitled to the spot because your not there.

Doesn't make sense. 

If I'm out on a bivy hunt I'm not actively using the site. If I'm out scouting and have my car parked at the trailhead I'm not actively using the site. In either scenario I'm going to have my crappy tent and chair still at the site and the tent will be empty.

The woods are big enough that people can go find another site.  I've had my intended spot taken before, not a big deal, I just found another one.

I get more irritated at the guys who set up the circus tents, with generators and music blasting, in the meadow I was planning on hunting.

It was stated earlier in this thread that your camp cannot be vacant for more than 24hrs. Just because you leave to go hunting/scouting doesn't make your camp vacant. As long as you return sometime within 24hrs you are actively using that campsite.
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2014, 12:17:34 PM »
What are you suggesting by "an was probably lucky she didn't get killed"?

just exactly that....a few camps down it got to the point guns where drawn

an over what ?? these camps have been there for up to six generations..doing the same thing every year...its tradition....its a heritage....its something that just needs to be left alone....


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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2014, 12:19:51 PM »
Wow, is it time to go hunting yet?  8)


yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant wait to get back to what i do best

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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2014, 12:20:12 PM »
Sorry, but suggesting that resorting to guns and violence, suggesting that a warden could be shot and killed for doing her job is insane. I don't give a rats behind if your dads pappy papp's pappy camped and hunted there. Your comments regarding the threat of violence towards those that are supposed to enforce laws have no place in society, let alone this forum.

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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2014, 12:23:34 PM »
What are you suggesting by "an was probably lucky she didn't get killed"?

just exactly that....a few camps down it got to the point guns where drawn

an over what ?? these camps have been there for up to six generations..doing the same thing every year...its tradition....its a heritage....its something that just needs to be left alone....
I have no dog in this fight since my camp is set up 24/7 365,  but just don't understand the mentality of just because something has been done for so long that it is ok. It's not... :twocents:
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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2014, 12:27:37 PM »
Sorry, but suggesting that resorting to guns and violence, suggesting that a warden could be shot and killed for doing her job is insane. I don't give a rats behind if your dads pappy papp's pappy camped and hunted there. Your comments regarding the threat of violence towards those that are supposed to enforce laws have no place in society, let alone this forum.

i agree...maybe reread my post ?? i wasnt saying i condone shooting someone over this..

im just reporting what happened,it wasnt me,it wasnt even our camp....

il say it again just to be clear....i do not condone letting this rule lead to violence...but its just what happend a few camps down from ours

 



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Re: Early camp set up
« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2014, 12:52:16 PM »
I love how these various entitlement theads devolve into the same thing. I can/can't park here.....I can/can't use an atv or i would/wouldn' slash your tires....

The law says occupied. Not leave a crappy tent and chair for a week and come back when it suits your hunting schedule. Cut and dry. Your group/dad/pappy hunted this area for a 100 years so I'm entitled also. Nope. You aren't. Wardens shouldn't have to police this. If you set up, leave your stuff for a week and are surprised that someone has moved/packed up/turned in to lost and found your stuff that you abaondoned per the law then cry me a river. Boo hoo. Yes, people should leave your stuff alone.....when you are in camp, actively using the area, and hunting, camping, or recreating in general. I don't really care if you camped there last year or the last 20. It doesn't belong to you. Follow the rules and quit thinking you are exempt from defined time periods simply because you say so.

I saw this last year when I was invited to elk camp. We showed up two days before the season to set up camp, scout, stay there, and hunt the next 5 days. There was a crappy tent and one chair in the spot we wanted. We camped else where. The entire "spot" went unused and unvisited the entire time we were there. Looking back, I'd simply set up in the same spot and stay there for 24 hours. If the owner of the tent doesn't show up....guess what....I'm packing it up nicely, keeping it damage free and safe, and turning it in. Then, I'll get my camp set up once the abandoned crap is removed and go about my merry way. Somebody shows up, makes threats or accusations....tough. Go collect your crap and leave me be.

Maybe 9 or 10 members of this forum or hunting in gereral will think very poorly of me. Thats ok....I'm not the one that feels some holier than thou exemption to the rules.

Flame on.

A little edit as I think about this. Here is where I'm coming from. I'm not trying to be a jerk, that guy, or squash your ideas of heritage and tradition. I get all that. I agree with all that. However, I didn't grow up here and have come into hunting in my adult life. Yes, I don't feel the same connection to the areas you may. However, nobody is exempt from the rules/laws simply because of tradition or the past use. I have just as much expectation to camp in a spot as you do as long as we both follow the rules.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 01:05:49 PM by h20hunter »

 


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