Early camp set up

[h20hunter]

Now all we need are clear rules of conduct for our area. Until then it is just going to play out how it does come hunting season.

[washelkhunter]

We always go up 3 days before the opener and I'll inevitably pass by 2-4 dummy camps. They always seem to be the same. A 3-4 ft tall pos kids tent no hunter is seriously going to camp in and 1-2 old lawn chairs blown over and covered in pine needles. Some times the tents are blown down as well. I guess we need a clear definition of what a DC is because its evident that those who do this are quite adamant about defending the deed as an inherent right. Now we all know no one is foolish enough to go setup and leave all of their valuable gear and supplies for 4-6 days right?

Defintions of a Dummy Camp.

1. The first thought that goes thru your brain when seeing the DC is that, there is probably a dead body inside that tent.
2. Being a concerned, cautious citizen you stop to investigate and notice the tracks leading to the DC are undisturbed and covered in several days of duff and perhaps washed out by some rain.
3. Other than a chair or two there is nothing else indicating occupation, i.e. no cooking area, coolers, lanterns, chopped and stacked wood etc. These things are valuable right?
4. Upon unzipping the door of the tent you find it completely empty and thankfully no corpse inside.

I think thats a good start for defintions of the DC? Please feel free to add your own.

Now, this DC is smack dab in the middle of the place I want to camp. POOF! It mysteriously disappears, well look at that, better get the rake out and start smoothing out the tent site.   

Happy camping and good luck!   

[northcoast]

Two days away from an established camp is not what the thread is about; dummy camps are.  See images up thread for examples of the two, if you have never actually seen one.  In certain parts there are more dummies than real ones. It gets pretty ridiculous.

The pic you were referring to is of a kids tent in someone's back yard.  If you are talking about a set up like this..

or this

that is exactly what my camp looks like if I'm by myself or have only one of the kids with me.

That's why I get irritated when guys with their fancy wall tents and trailers think they can move my stuff just because they think it's a dummy camp.

If you think it's a dummy camp report it to the FSO. If it doesn't belong to you don't touch it.


Maybe if I get a tent like this one you'll leave it alone.

[Fl0und3rz]

The pic you were referring to is of a kids tent in someone's back yard.  If you are talking about a set up like this..

^Developed site, 24 hour rule typically applies.

or this

that is exactly what my camp looks like if I'm by myself or have only one of the kids with me.

I don't think you have anything to worry about.  Looks in use to me.  But it also appears to be a Developed Site.

That's why I get irritated when guys with their fancy wall tents and trailers think they can move my stuff just because they think it's a dummy camp.

If you think it's a dummy camp report it to the FSO. If it doesn't belong to you don't touch it.


Maybe if I get a tent like this one you'll leave it alone.

Hold the phone! That's a hippie camp!  That's where you get your weed and acid before going out on a high hunt. 

[turkeyfeather]

North coast, either of those two pics might make me take a closer look and see if they are being used. If not then I may set my camp up there with yours and whether or not we teach our kids a lesson about good people or jackwagons is solely up to you. 

[northcoast]

Like I said before, I have people camp by me all the time.  Doesn't bother me and I enjoy the company, especially when they have good food and cold beer.

If my stuff gets moved just so they can set up there camp... . 

[bowhuntersd]

North coast, either of those two pics might make me take a closer look and see if they are being used. If not then I may set my camp up there with yours and whether or not we teach our kids a lesson about good people or jackwagons is solely up to you.

Pot  SHMUCK!

[hornhunter1987]

WOW     when this thread first came up I would have never guessed it would make it to 8 pages.

[turkeyfeather]

North coast, either of those two pics might make me take a closer look and see if they are being used. If not then I may set my camp up there with yours and whether or not we teach our kids a lesson about good people or jackwagons is solely up to you.

Pot  SHMUCK!

I am trying to decide if your being sarcastic or a jerk.   Oh  and you spelled schmuck wrong. 

[pd]

http://thenationalforests.com/the-national-forests/national-forest-camping-rules.html


•At least one person must occupy a camping area during the first night after camping equipment has been set up. Camping equipment cannot be left unattended for more than 24 hours.


 

That is only for developed recreation areas (i.e. pay campgrounds).  Not sure why the "anti dummy camp" guys keep trying to twist things so they don't look like jackholes for messing with people's stuff. 

If you take my stuff and set up your own camp, that's theft.

If you like the spot and think it's "abandoned" then report it but know this...the FSO can't remove my stuff until 5 days after a written notice if he knows my name and address.  If he doesn't know who's stuff it is then he/she has to wait 3 days after public notice.

Code of Federal Regulation Title 36 Part 262.12 (Current as of 7/31/2014)

(a) Automobiles or other vehicles, trailers, boats, and camping equipment and other inanimate personal property on National Forest System lands without the authorization of a Forest officer which are not removed therefrom within the prescribed period after a warning notice as provided in this regulation may be impounded by a Forest officer. Whenever such Forest officer knows the name and address of the owner, such impoundment may be effected at any time five days after the date that written notice of the trespass is mailed by registered mail or delivered to such owner.

(b) If the local Forest Officer does not know the name and address of the owner of property in trespass, impoundment may be effected at any time 72 hours after a notice of intention to impound the property in trespass is posted in at least one place in the vicinity of the property.


If someone get's there before me and takes the spot I was planning on camping at, oh well, that's their right.  Bottom line is 14 days is the limit and then you need to move 5 miles. That's it.

No dog in this fight, but good on you for the CFR reference. Local USFS administrators sometime forget they are not Lords of our manors.

[TheHunt]

OK, so if you wanted to be a trouble maker.  You cold break down dummy camps pile it up at the edge of the road.  Do that with every assumed camp.  I would assume lots of fireworks would be going on before hunting season.