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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2014, 09:25:09 AM »
Also, are all of your broadheads not flying right or just a couple? If the shafts weren't well cut, then a spin test (as mentioned above) will show it.
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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2014, 09:28:19 AM »
Lining up blades with vanes will have no impqct whatsoever on flight... unless the head just happens to spin true with it lined up. Can you cut the vanes off of a field tip arrow and shoot a group at 15-20 yards with 3 field tips and the field tip with vames cut off? Then post a pic. If the bare shaft groups with fletched arrows you should be good. If not some tuning is needed.

I have absolutely improved grouping on broadheads by aligning the blades with the fletches.  :dunno:
there is no reason at all it would affect flight in any way as long as the broadhead spins straight. How would you line up a 2 or 4 blade head?

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2014, 09:47:54 AM »
Lining up blades with vanes will have no impqct whatsoever on flight... unless the head just happens to spin true with it lined up. Can you cut the vanes off of a field tip arrow and shoot a group at 15-20 yards with 3 field tips and the field tip with vames cut off? Then post a pic. If the bare shaft groups with fletched arrows you should be good. If not some tuning is needed.

I have absolutely improved grouping on broadheads by aligning the blades with the fletches.  :dunno:
there is no reason at all it would affect flight in any way as long as the broadhead spins straight. How would you line up a 2 or 4 blade head?
3blade bh with 3vane arrow, line them up.  It helps do to air currents off the bh in same pattern as the vanes but off plane causing uneven flow over the vanes.
It is also easy to just give it a try without cutting vanes off possibly good arrows.  There are orings available at pro shops just to allow this sort of alignment while still having bh tight so not move.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2014, 09:51:38 AM »
Also, are all of your broadheads not flying right or just a couple? If the shafts weren't well cut, then a spin test (as mentioned above) will show it.

so far everyone ive tried
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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2014, 09:55:11 AM »
Lining up blades with vanes will have no impqct whatsoever on flight... unless the head just happens to spin true with it lined up. Can you cut the vanes off of a field tip arrow and shoot a group at 15-20 yards with 3 field tips and the field tip with vames cut off? Then post a pic. If the bare shaft groups with fletched arrows you should be good. If not some tuning is needed.

I have absolutely improved grouping on broadheads by aligning the blades with the fletches.  :dunno:
there is no reason at all it would affect flight in any way as long as the broadhead spins straight. How would you line up a 2 or 4 blade head?
3blade bh with 3vane arrow, line them up.  It helps do to air currents off the bh in same pattern as the vanes but off plane causing uneven flow over the vanes.
It is also easy to just give it a try without cutting vanes off possibly good arrows.  There are orings available at pro shops just to allow this sort of alignment while still having bh tight so not move.

i would need to pick some orings up, the shuttle ts and DRTs didnt come with any so when they tighten up they may or may not line up
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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2014, 09:56:10 AM »
Your telling me that the continuous flexing of the shaft during flight wont affect airflow past the arrow between the head and vanes?  Imo if you are putting o rings between the head amd arrow you are asking for alignment inconsistencies.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2014, 09:57:29 AM »
*might be stupid question* but exactly how do you align your broadheads up with your fletchings? or are you all saying you had to refletch your arrows to match where your broadheads sat?

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2014, 09:57:50 AM »
I am willing to bet that it is a form or tuning issue. Especiallynsince no broadhead will fly right.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2014, 09:58:07 AM »
Lining up blades with vanes will have no impqct whatsoever on flight... unless the head just happens to spin true with it lined up. Can you cut the vanes off of a field tip arrow and shoot a group at 15-20 yards with 3 field tips and the field tip with vames cut off? Then post a pic. If the bare shaft groups with fletched arrows you should be good. If not some tuning is needed.

I have absolutely improved grouping on broadheads by aligning the blades with the fletches.  :dunno:
there is no reason at all it would affect flight in any way as long as the broadhead spins straight. How would you line up a 2 or 4 blade head?

I can say that the 4 blade slick tricks shoot like field points if you line them up with the string.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2014, 10:02:22 AM »
*might be stupid question* but exactly how do you align your broadheads up with your fletchings? or are you all saying you had to refletch your arrows to match where your broadheads sat?
I assemble my broadheads on inserts then glue the inserts into the arrow.  Align the blades and fletchings before the glue is done setting.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2014, 10:04:04 AM »
I can say with certainty that any straight and true spinning broadhead will fly like a field tip out of a well tuned bow and arrow set up regardless of blade orientation.  :chuckle:

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2014, 10:04:16 AM »
SMossy no, I used outings from pro shop to get them aligned.

Bull-I am not scientist, this is what I was told by multiple people and proved out in my personal setup.  Don't want to try it, that is your choice, I am just giving the op a simple cheap option to try.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2014, 10:04:32 AM »
*might be stupid question* but exactly how do you align your broadheads up with your fletchings? or are you all saying you had to refletch your arrows to match where your broadheads sat?
I assemble my broadheads on inserts then glue the inserts into the arrow.  Align the blades and fletchings before the glue is done setting.
Oh interesting.. because I'm looking at mine and none match up with the fletches.. they screw in tight and that's where they sit. I'll have to tell my pro shop *coughSmossycough* to look into that for me ;)

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2014, 10:05:38 AM »
SMossy no, I used outings from pro shop to get them aligned.

Bull-I am not scientist, this is what I was told by multiple people and proved out in my personal setup.  Don't want to try it, that is your choice, I am just giving the op a simple cheap option to try.

You wrote that at the same time I wrote my question  :chuckle: I kept trying to post and it gave me the "new reply warning" but I didn't read it until after.

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Re: broadheads not grouping?
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2014, 10:07:21 AM »
It's not as important as people make it sound.  If they're not aligned but fly good that's fine.

 


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