free floaing peeps issue frustration

[nw_bowhunter]

I had my new bow five months, sighted in and was shooting great! The last 3d shoot I noticed I was shooting low and right. Than I started having issues with seeing ring to ring through my peep.. at first it was my d loop kept going right but after having it straightened twice still have the same issue. I continue not having a clear view through my peep and was compensating. My buddy noticed it was twisting and asked if my view was more like a oval. Sure was!

 I had read if the peep keeps twisting to have a pro shop add a twist to the string which will resolve and over time the peep will stop twisting and stay in the correct position. Anyways my buddy told me he went back to the peep that is connected with tubing because of the same issue. I was reluctant as I had one before and found it often got tangled and plus they seemed to break at the worst time..(like his who broke right after his first shot)

We  stopped at sportsmen to have me peep fix. Of course he attempted to square the d loop but didn't resolve the issue.  They tried to make my floating peep work but my sight view was inconsistent and I kept moving my anchor around to see clearly.. so than since I couldnt find a consistent anchor they moved my sight housing and had me adjust my anchor. That didnt work because it didnt feel natural or feel comfortable. (Inside I'm freaking about my site being moved)

They talked me into changing from a free floating peep and getting the kind with a tube..after some tweaking I can see ring to ring again. But I'm not thrilled I really want to stay with a floating peep. What can I do to ensure the peeps stops twisting? Issue with how it was tied in? I really don't want to deal with twisting however I dislike the tube on the string. Oh and after I left to shoot I had to 're-tie the tube to my string and start 're sighting.  I had planned to shoot broadheads since season is upon us but now it will be shooting next week to ensure I'm sighted. For the life of me I just dint understand why my sight needed to be move when they new peep in???

In the future I'm going to not let some move my site without having a darn good reason. Created a lot of extra work.

I'm going to really work on my grip, anchor, and level etc to ensure even better groups.  I have a high anchor and I can see I been compensating to much overtime.

On the bright side of things my new acc pros with max hunters seem to fly good.  except for one which one if the fletching fell off.

[RadSav]

Do you know what string you have on your bow?

Tubing is not bad.  I use it often!  Tubing breakage has not been a problem for me.  Seems the chance of that happening during a hunt is about the same as a peep slipping or rotating.  I have an aligner on my string on almost every trip where I'm more than a day away from the truck or shop.  There is not always tubing attached, but most of the time the aligner is there if for some reason I need it.  To me it's cheep insurance when I pay 10's of thousands of dollars on a hunt.

A 452X string of quality make usually eliminated problems with non tubing peep sights.  Hearing good things about BCY-X too!  Once temperatures rise above 80 degrees a lot of guys start noticing peep rotation issues with factory strings as the wax gets thin and creep happens.

When a shop rotates the string to get peep alignment the twist should be added or subtracted from the bottom cam post and not the top.  I see shops making that mistake often.  Unless you are close to Fed Way or Wenatchee you take your chances at a Sportsman's.  And even then it depends who is on duty.  Most well established pro shops with long term employees have it figured out! 

[Come Get Some]

Agreed,
String type is most likely the problem. My wife still uses tubing on her bow. Same tubing for a couple of years. If it starts to look like it is checking, worn she changes it.
Never had a problem.I shoot Winners choice ,The peep never rotates. I set it out of the box and very seldom have to re align the peep.

[lamrith]

Wow, funny with the timing on this thread.  I think I may have run into the same heat related issue.  My bow got inconsistent and my peep started turning this weekend when I was out shooting all day in the heat Sat and I also started having erratic arrow flight because a riser cable stretched in all of a sudden shooting Sat.

[nw_bowhunter]

Do you know what string you have on your bow?

Tubing is not bad.  I use it often!  Tubing breakage has not been a problem for me.  Seems the chance of that happening during a hunt is about the same as a peep slipping or rotating.  I have an aligner on my string on almost every trip where I'm more than a day away from the truck or shop.  There is not always tubing attached, but most of the time the aligner is there if for some reason I need it.  To me it's cheep insurance when I pay 10's of thousands of dollars on a hunt.

A 452X string of quality make usually eliminated problems with non tubing peep sights.  Hearing good things about BCY-X too!  Once temperatures rise above 80 degrees a lot of guys start noticing peep rotation issues with factory strings as the wax gets thin and creep happens.

When a shop rotates the string to get peep alignment the twist should be added or subtracted from the bottom cam post and not the top.  I see shops making that mistake often.  Unless you are close to Fed Way or Wenatchee you take your chances at a Sportsman's.  And even then it depends who is on duty.  Most well established pro shops with long term employees have it figured out! 

I believe they are zebra strings which are factory from mathews. RADSAV I bought your peep product yesterday and I found that your tubing seems to be a different material than I had on my previous bow. I could be wrong but the rubber tubing is smaller and doesn't appear so flimsy from other tubing. .  I also noticed that the guy behind the counter put my friends tubing in alcohol but didn't do it to mine. Not ure why? Plus our tubing sizes were different color and sizes.  His was green color and mine was black. Maybe he bought different brand.

It makes sense for the added insurance and not worrying about the peep twisting. Lesson learned.


I just wish there was a good pro shop where I live and one that was actually open on weekends.

[nw_bowhunter]

Agreed,
String type is most likely the problem. My wife still uses tubing on her bow. Same tubing for a couple of years. If it starts to look like it is checking, worn she changes it.
Never had a problem.I shoot Winners choice ,The peep never rotates. I set it out of the box and very seldom have to re align the peep.

I have used winner strings once before and liked them.  When my string wares out I change them out. Maybe try a floating peep. Thanks for the info.

[RadSav]

I believe they are zebra strings which are factory from mathews. RADSAV I bought your peep product yesterday and I found that your tubing seems to be a different material than I had on my previous bow. I could be wrong but the rubber tubing is smaller and doesn't appear so flimsy from other tubing. .  I also noticed that the guy behind the counter put my friends tubing in alcohol but didn't do it to mine. Not ure why? Plus our tubing sizes were different color and sizes.  His was green color and mine was black. Maybe he bought different brand.

The new Zebra strings are pretty good.  The older ones were questionable.  I'm not sure the material Mathews is putting on their factory Zebra.  Just that it is a proprietary blend

We produce two different types of tubing.  One is a mandrel dipped natural latex product and the other is an extruded plastic elastomer.  I would assume the tubing they used alcohol on was latex and the one without was the plastic elastomer (Brand UVR).  The UVR is non-porous so there is no way for the alcohol to evaporate and escape.  Latex has much more tack and it needs a little spit to help it slip over the post.  Both are good products we spent a lot of years testing and approving.  My personal preference is the UVR material as it seems a bit quieter.

If your friends tubing was fluorescent green it was latex.  If olive green probably UVR.  No guarantee whose tubing or what material it might have been if it was black.

[sakoshooter]

The heat has a lot of folks strings moving at the shoots I've attended lately. Mine moved a tad at the Rhinehart so I pressed it and put a 1/2 turn in it. Ain't moved since. My string is a Winner's Choice. I've tried two other brands but like WC best. A quality string will definitly make a big difference.