Man gets escorted off of NF trail for open carrying rifle and pistol. UPDATE!!

[jackelope]

Update,

I just got off of the phone with the Verlot Ranger Station/service center. I asked about this issue and the person I talked to said the WTA report was fairly accurate. I asked about what happened and she informed me that there was a man with an assault rifle and several hand guns on the trail. He was not threatening anyone and minding his own business. I asked if he was cited or arrested and she said no. I asked if he was escorted off the trail and asked to leave. She said yes he was asked to voluntarily leave. She then told me that is was legal to carry in NF and such (I think she thought I was an anti-gunner). The lady I talked to was very nice and forthcoming.

I'm all for protecting ones' self, I'm all for guns, I'm all for open carry, concealed carry, hunting, shooting whatever else...but what on God's green earth does a guy need an assault rifle and "several" handguns for on a very popular, well travelled hiking trail?? If I saw that guy on a trail,  I'd be alarmed too. When people are hiking with their children in the middle of the woods and a dude comes walking by you on a trail and he's armed like the zombie apocalypse is about to go down, what do you expect is going to happen?
This is the same stuff that is giving the pro-open carry crowd a bad name, like strapping an AR to your back and going to Starbucks.
That or the guy has a few screws loose.
This guy could have thought  of about 673 other better places to take his guns for a walk.
Just my .02

[csaaphill]

personally will wit on Pman to see what happened but thanks.
To me it's not a stretch that people who are anti gun anti hunting will call cops sheriffs or whoever to make waves.
“SWATting” is the intentional practice of calling 911 and reporting someone committing a violent crime, in order to create an overwhelming police response (such as a SWAT team, which is how the term came about). We’ve discussed SWATting previously at Bearing Arms after radical left-wing talk show host Mike Malloy announced his intentions to SWAT open carriers in hopes of getting them shot:
I guess what I’ll do if I’m ever in that situation and I see one of these half-witted yahoos walking in with a weapon, high-caliber rifle like that, I’ll just put on a berserk act. I will just start screaming Gun! Gun! Gun! Watch out, everybody hit the deck! Guns! Guns! Everybody! And then dial 911 and I will say, shots fired, which will bring every g**-damned cop within 15 miles. And then the half-wits with the long guns are going to panic and they’re going to run out of the store and if that rifle isn’t shouldered properly, the cop is going to take a look at that and put a bullet right in their forehead.
http://bearingarms.com/dayton-walmart-shooting-innocent-man-swatted-death/3/

[csaaphill]

Update,

I just got off of the phone with the Verlot Ranger Station/service center. I asked about this issue and the person I talked to said the WTA report was fairly accurate. I asked about what happened and she informed me that there was a man with an assault rifle and several hand guns on the trail. He was not threatening anyone and minding his own business. I asked if he was cited or arrested and she said no. I asked if he was escorted off the trail and asked to leave. She said yes he was asked to voluntarily leave. She then told me that is was legal to carry in NF and such (I think she thought I was an anti-gunner). The lady I talked to was very nice and forthcoming.

I'm all for protecting ones' self, I'm all for guns, I'm all for open carry, concealed carry, hunting, shooting whatever else...but what on God's green earth does a guy need an assault rifle and "several" handguns for on a very popular, well travelled hiking trail?? If I saw that guy on a trail,  I'd be alarmed too. When people are hiking with their children in the middle of the woods and a dude comes walking by you on a trail and he's armed like the zombie apocalypse is about to go down, what do you expect is going to happen?
This is the same stuff that is giving the pro-open carry crowd a bad name, like strapping an AR to your back and going to Starbucks.
That or the guy has a few screws loose.
This guy could have thought  of about 673 other better places to take his guns for a walk.
Just my .02

My guess is because it's still legal and he can and shouldn't mater how many guns a person has on his person. Once we do that then who knows how far people will take it.
I hate how people freak out over assault rifles just because they look like military issued weapons. They are just semi automatic rifles much like the 30-06 semi auto one might have or .22 caliber.
they have military austetics that's it stop trying to say its out there because someone carries one or two or three or what ever.
people need to stop being threatend by the site of a gun we already live in a gunaphobic country now don't need to throw more on the flames!

[csaaphill]

Update,

I just got off of the phone with the Verlot Ranger Station/service center. I asked about this issue and the person I talked to said the WTA report was fairly accurate. I asked about what happened and she informed me that there was a man with an assault rifle and several hand guns on the trail. He was not threatening anyone and minding his own business. I asked if he was cited or arrested and she said no. I asked if he was escorted off the trail and asked to leave. She said yes he was asked to voluntarily leave. She then told me that is was legal to carry in NF and such (I think she thought I was an anti-gunner). The lady I talked to was very nice and forthcoming.

I'm all for protecting ones' self, I'm all for guns, I'm all for open carry, concealed carry, hunting, shooting whatever else...but what on God's green earth does a guy need an assault rifle and "several" handguns for on a very popular, well travelled hiking trail?? If I saw that guy on a trail,  I'd be alarmed too. When people are hiking with their children in the middle of the woods and a dude comes walking by you on a trail and he's armed like the zombie apocalypse is about to go down, what do you expect is going to happen?
This is the same stuff that is giving the pro-open carry crowd a bad name, like strapping an AR to your back and going to Starbucks.
That or the guy has a few screws loose.
This guy could have thought  of about 673 other better places to take his guns for a walk.
Just my .02

ya stop trying to limit us all the more and stop trying to throw out your values on people and making points where nonereally eixist nor should it. We all know how you people get this started is to throw outthiskind of crap then beofre you know it's law or some other kind of taboo. then before you know it those that don't care or want to change to your way of thinking we end up in jail or dead!
STOP IT AND STOP IT NOW!!!!!!!!!

[pianoman9701]

I've had no further word an can find nothing in the papers.

[Curly]

Sounds like the info Russ got was correct.  The trail was not closed and no one was escorted off the property.  I would think that it would make the news if the trail was closed and someone escorted off the area.

[Russ McDonald]

So I did some inquiries to someone in the know.  He was carrying a rifle and was within his legal rights to carry openly or concealed.  To his knowledge the trail was never closed nor was anyone escorted off the mountain.

I am trying to get a little bit more information from a LE I work with that patrols that area.  What he told me is above.

[Curly]

It is too bad that just the sight of a "scary" black rifle alarms people but thank the media for that.  Just calling them assault rifles is probably a big problem with the perception people have toward them. 

I guess that is just the way it is now. Open carry an AR for protection and you can expect people to be scared of you and possibly call LE.

[pianoman9701]

Even people on this thread are calling them assault rifles.  MSRs - Modern Sporting Rifle is the term to use. I always tell people that an "assault rifle is a military-grade, fully automatic machine gun which is illegal for civilian use."

[ICEMAN]

Wait, wait....lemme get this straight.

Some hikers were bothered by the sight of one man with a gun, politely open carrying, so they called up a whole bunch of guys with guns, body armor, trained attack dogs, and a plethora of deadly and not-so-deadly gadgets and gizmos to go mess with him?

It amazes me how often these so called anti-gun people use guns through a public servant. These people are not even anti-gun, they are anti-human rights, pro-authoritarians, who point the guns of government at anyone who makes them uncomfortable.

It sounds like he was also kidnapped under duress.

Disgusting.

Hilarious!  Love your comment.so true...

[grundy53]

Even people on this thread are calling them assault rifles.  MSRs - Modern Sporting Rifle is the term to use. I always tell people that an "assault rifle is a military-grade, fully automatic machine gun which is illegal for civilian use."

Well said! I completely agree. However just a little clarification. Fully automatic machine guns are not illegal for citizens to own. There are quite a few states where it is perfectly legal to own them as long as you have a class 3 tax stamp. Unfortunately our state isn't one of them   .

[JimmyHoffa]

Even people on this thread are calling them assault rifles.  MSRs - Modern Sporting Rifle is the term to use. I always tell people that an "assault rifle is a military-grade, fully automatic machine gun which is illegal for civilian use."

Well said! I completely agree. However just a little clarification. Fully automatic machine guns are not illegal for citizens to own. There are quite a few states where it is perfectly legal to own them as long as you have a class 3 tax stamp. Unfortunately our state isn't one of them   .

unless you had it prior to the state ban and were grandfathered in

[Stein]

It's a rifle, why fall into that trap?  You have pistols, rifles and shotguns.  If the rifle has a plastic stock or a wood stock, it is still a rifle.

The first thing you do if you want to get rid of something is divide it up, assign an evil name and go after one small segment at a time.

[pianoman9701]

Because the antis has separated them and the unknowing are listening to bad info. These are modern rifles. They do look different even though they work the same way. People need to know you understand what they're concerned about. You don't have to convince me, Stein. You have to convince the people who don't own firearms.

[jackelope]

Update,

I just got off of the phone with the Verlot Ranger Station/service center. I asked about this issue and the person I talked to said the WTA report was fairly accurate. I asked about what happened and she informed me that there was a man with an assault rifle and several hand guns on the trail. He was not threatening anyone and minding his own business. I asked if he was cited or arrested and she said no. I asked if he was escorted off the trail and asked to leave. She said yes he was asked to voluntarily leave. She then told me that is was legal to carry in NF and such (I think she thought I was an anti-gunner). The lady I talked to was very nice and forthcoming.

I'm all for protecting ones' self, I'm all for guns, I'm all for open carry, concealed carry, hunting, shooting whatever else...but what on God's green earth does a guy need an assault rifle and "several" handguns for on a very popular, well travelled hiking trail?? If I saw that guy on a trail,  I'd be alarmed too. When people are hiking with their children in the middle of the woods and a dude comes walking by you on a trail and he's armed like the zombie apocalypse is about to go down, what do you expect is going to happen?
This is the same stuff that is giving the pro-open carry crowd a bad name, like strapping an AR to your back and going to Starbucks.
That or the guy has a few screws loose.
This guy could have thought  of about 673 other better places to take his guns for a walk.
Just my .02

ya stop trying to limit us all the more and stop trying to throw out your values on people and making points where nonereally eixist nor should it. We all know how you people get this started is to throw outthiskind of crap then beofre you know it's law or some other kind of taboo. then before you know it those that don't care or want to change to your way of thinking we end up in jail or dead!
STOP IT AND STOP IT NOW!!!!!!!!!

You might want to take a step back and reread what I said. Nowhere did I put my values out there. Not sure what kind of crap I'm throwing out there either. The guy is on a wildly popular hiking trail in western Washington carrying a MSR/assault rifle/semi-auto rifle/call it what you want and "several"(according to the lady at Verlot) handguns. It's going to raise red flags. I don't care if the guy was carrying a pre-64 model 70 and 3 Ruger Blackhawks. They're all guns and people who are not pro-gun are bound to freak out in that scenario. That, sir, is a fact regardless of what "values" you think I'm throwing out there.  Unfortunately it's inherent in today's society.