First off, I would really like to say how pleased I am with the fit of these pants. I'm a slim guy. I'm not talking 32 inch waist slim. I'm a 135 pound lean, mean, bean pole, gangly white kid. Finding regular clothes that fit well is hard enough. These things are, as my dad would say, "the cat's @ss." Been looking for a nice pair of hunting pants for a while. Got some cabelas six pocket pants that I don't really like that much. Usually just wear my carhartt ripstops in green. Tough enough that I won't tear a hole in them but if they get soaked, which takes a while, the hair is coming off my legs for sure. Finally looked into these things and my goodness. They are SUPER comfortable. As soon as I got them, I threw them on and went and ran some errands. No more binding at the knees while on a bike, they will shed water to a certain degree but dry really fast. I highly recommend these to any slimmer built folks, and the price wasn't bad enough to make the wife complain. Next step is the rain gear!