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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #90 on: September 15, 2014, 08:34:07 AM »

My bad I thought it was pretty clear what I meant, but thx jackelope for clearing it up for him

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #91 on: September 15, 2014, 12:17:18 PM »
If it was indeed shot west of the pacific crest trail it will be classified as a cascade Rosie, just saying
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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2014, 12:21:44 PM »
If it was indeed shot west of the pacific crest trail it will be classified as a cascade Rosie, just saying
u have no idea since it was shot out in graham which is east of I-5 making it not a rosie by definition....JUST SAYIN
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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #93 on: September 15, 2014, 12:24:54 PM »
If it was indeed shot west of the pacific crest trail it will be classified as a cascade Rosie, just saying

FYI, The PCT is the decider between Muley and Blacktail
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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #94 on: September 15, 2014, 12:26:13 PM »
If it was indeed shot west of the pacific crest trail it will be classified as a cascade Rosie, just saying

FYI, The PCT is the decider between Muley and Blacktail
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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #95 on: September 15, 2014, 12:28:46 PM »
Washington state record book calls it a Cascade Rosie. I know west of I-5 says they are a Rcky Mountain, but State book has different boundries. Just sayin.
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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #96 on: September 15, 2014, 12:30:13 PM »
Washington state record book calls it a Cascade Rosie. I know west of I-5 says they are a Rcky Mountain, but State book has different boundries. Just sayin.
West of I-5 are rosie not rocky mountain  :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
And if u click the link you will see boone and crocketts classification which everyone goes by...

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #97 on: September 15, 2014, 12:35:22 PM »
Yeah, there's three categories for WA elk:  Rocky Mountain, Cascade Roosevelt and Roosevelt. 

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #98 on: September 15, 2014, 12:37:31 PM »
Yeah, there's three categories for WA elk:  Rocky Mountain, Cascade Roosevelt and Roosevelt.
if it was to be put into boone and crockett it would be classified as rocky mountain end of discussion...  :bash: :dunno: :chuckle:
That's like classifying the bucks in north bend as black tail mule crosses, bootlegs, hybrids..... whatever goes in the book is what matters...

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #99 on: September 15, 2014, 12:39:55 PM »
If it was indeed shot west of the pacific crest trail it will be classified as a cascade Rosie, just saying

FYI, The PCT is the decider between Muley and Blacktail
And blacktail gets divided yet again into Cascade and Columbian.

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #100 on: September 15, 2014, 12:54:38 PM »
Yeah, there's three categories for WA elk:  Rocky Mountain, Cascade Roosevelt and Roosevelt.
if it was to be put into boone and crockett it would be classified as rocky mountain end of discussion...  :bash: :dunno: :chuckle:
That's like classifying the bucks in north bend as black tail mule crosses, bootlegs, hybrids..... whatever goes in the book is what matters...

Maybe its the end of the discussion for YOU. There are a lot of hunters who don't give a rip about record books. Boone and Crockett only classify it that way to make it easier on them. Not because the elk east of I-5 are actually Rocky's. There are a lot of Roosevelts east of I-5.

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #101 on: September 15, 2014, 01:11:42 PM »
The problem is Rocky Mtn elk and Roosevelt elk are basically the same. They're the same species, and they interbreed. There is Boone & Crocket and then there is the more recent Washington State record book, which arbitrarily decided there are three kinds of elk in Washington. Boone and Crockett only recognizes two. This is where the confusion is coming from. Two books, two different systems for classifying elk. 

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2014, 02:34:47 PM »
Yeah, there's three categories for WA elk:  Rocky Mountain, Cascade Roosevelt and Roosevelt.
if it was to be put into boone and crockett it would be classified as rocky mountain end of discussion...  :bash: :dunno: :chuckle:
That's like classifying the bucks in north bend as black tail mule crosses, bootlegs, hybrids..... whatever goes in the book is what matters...

Maybe its the end of the discussion for YOU. There are a lot of hunters who don't give a rip about record books. Boone and Crockett only classify it that way to make it easier on them. Not because the elk east of I-5 are actually Rocky's. There are a lot of Roosevelts east of I-5.

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You could say that he has some Roosevelt in him but his is mainly rocky thats all u can say

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #103 on: September 15, 2014, 02:45:07 PM »
Never heard of the cascade Rosie, is there a scientific taxonomy description of this assumed subspecies?

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Re: Huge West Side Rosie
« Reply #104 on: September 15, 2014, 03:06:15 PM »

Never heard of the cascade Rosie, is there a scientific taxonomy description of this assumed subspecies?

No, like I said the only place you'll find this classification for a "Cascade Roosevelt" is in the state record book put out by Northwest Big Game. It's not an officially recognized sub-species.

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