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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #150 on: September 18, 2014, 08:09:02 PM »
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #151 on: September 18, 2014, 09:36:04 PM »
looks like Stevens County has grown tired of WDFW puppy show.


http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/sep/18/stevens-county-commission-condemns-state-wolf-management/

Meanwhile the Stevens County Commission contends the WDFW “failed to honor its obligation and an imminent threat to life and property still exists.”

The resolution says the commission “will consider all available option to protect the residents” and declared that “the wolves of the Huckleberry Pack are subject to whatever Constitutional means necessary to secure our public in their lives, liberty and property.”
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #152 on: September 19, 2014, 05:45:21 AM »
If half the MT hunters unhappy about wolves went out and bought and filled a tag, there wouldn't be any "problem" in Montana - or any other state that has legal wolf hunting.  Heck, if 10% of the hunters went after wolves one or two days a year the picture would be much different.  Even as a non-resident, I can pick up a MT tag for $50 OTC (5/year) and hunt pretty much anywhere - not to mention ranchers who would probably welcome the help.  I know a bunch of MT hunters and have yet to meet one that ever even bought a tag.

Washington will be the same way I bet, wolves reproduce, get unlisted and then hardly anyone hunts them.  It's always easier to complain than it is to do something productive.

This is a statement made in total ignorance to the realities of wolf hunting/management. A little less than a month ago, the WDFW announced they would take out 4 members of the Huckleberry pack using a helicopter and other methods. They have tracking collars on some of the wolves, know where their dens are, used a helicopter, and shot one wolf. With all of the technology available to them, they fell short of their goal by 75%. They don't sit out there and wait for you to come shoot them. They're extremely resourceful and intelligent, adaptive creatures. They change their tactics. They change their activity. If it were as easy as buying a tag, ID and MT would be filling their quotas every Fall. It isn't.
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #153 on: September 19, 2014, 06:25:08 AM »
If I had the legal ability to shoot on site, I can guarantee you there would be a lot less wolves.

We hunt coyotes 24/7/365 and you can see how well we keep them in check. 



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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #154 on: September 19, 2014, 06:44:45 AM »
If I had the legal ability to shoot on site, I can guarantee you there would be a lot less wolves.

We hunt coyotes 24/7/365 and you can see how well we keep them in check.

I think there would be more wolves taken, but by the time we reach steady management (read wolf season), there will be so many wolves in this state that just keeping up with the population will require killing 300-500 /year. The wolves will adapt. And, they're smarter than coyotes.
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #155 on: September 19, 2014, 07:23:51 AM »
If half the MT hunters unhappy about wolves went out and bought and filled a tag, there wouldn't be any "problem" in Montana - or any other state that has legal wolf hunting.  Heck, if 10% of the hunters went after wolves one or two days a year the picture would be much different.  Even as a non-resident, I can pick up a MT tag for $50 OTC (5/year) and hunt pretty much anywhere - not to mention ranchers who would probably welcome the help.  I know a bunch of MT hunters and have yet to meet one that ever even bought a tag.

Washington will be the same way I bet, wolves reproduce, get unlisted and then hardly anyone hunts them.  It's always easier to complain than it is to do something productive.

This is a statement made in total ignorance to the realities of wolf hunting/management. A little less than a month ago, the WDFW announced they would take out 4 members of the Huckleberry pack using a helicopter and other methods. They have tracking collars on some of the wolves, know where their dens are, used a helicopter, and shot one wolf. With all of the technology available to them, they fell short of their goal by 75%. They don't sit out there and wait for you to come shoot them. They're extremely resourceful and intelligent, adaptive creatures. They change their tactics. They change their activity. If it were as easy as buying a tag, ID and MT would be filling their quotas every Fall. It isn't.

There were a lot of very experienced trappers and predator hunters in Michigan last year who walked into their wolf hunt thinking it would be no more difficult than hunting coyotes. They learned a hard lesson and the quota was not reached. People got the first unsuspecting wolves and then the animals smartened up fast.

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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #156 on: September 19, 2014, 07:35:43 AM »
looks like Stevens County has grown tired of WDFW puppy show.


http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/sep/18/stevens-county-commission-condemns-state-wolf-management/

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Meanwhile the Stevens County Commission contends the WDFW “failed to honor its obligation and an imminent threat to life and property still exists.”

The resolution says the commission “will consider all available option to protect the residents” and declared that “the wolves of the Huckleberry Pack are subject to whatever Constitutional means necessary to secure our public in their lives, liberty and property.”

The resolution says more than 200 of the sheep are still missing and attacks that might be attributed to wolves have been reported by other livestock owners in the area. The commissioners are particularly upset that a livestock grower was forced off private land by wolf attacks.

•As wildlife managers were trying to deal with the wolf attacks, killing the pack's alpha female in a helicopter gunning flight, pro-wolf groups petitioned Gov. Jay Inslee to block the  use of lethal control.

Meanwhile the Stevens County Commission contends the WDFW “failed to honor its obligation and an imminent threat to life and property still exists.”

The resolution says the commission “will consider all available option to protect the residents” and declared that “the wolves of the Huckleberry Pack are subject to whatever Constitutional means necessary to secure our public in their lives, liberty and property.”
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #157 on: September 19, 2014, 07:50:53 AM »

The resolution says more than 200 of the sheep are still missing and attacks that might be attributed to wolves have been reported by other livestock owners in the area.  That's a lot of $$$$.
https://www.howlforwildlife.org/take_action  It takes 10 seconds and it’s free. To easy to make an excuse not to make your voice heard!!!!!!

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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #158 on: September 19, 2014, 08:10:42 AM »

The resolution says more than 200 of the sheep are still missing and attacks that might be attributed to wolves have been reported by other livestock owners in the area.  That's a lot of $$$$.

A friend of ours just sold 6 sheep and 6 goats the other day for $1500!
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #159 on: September 19, 2014, 08:29:06 AM »
If I had the legal ability to shoot on site, I can guarantee you there would be a lot less wolves.

We hunt coyotes 24/7/365 and you can see how well we keep them in check.
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I would forego deer season to spend a couple of weeks just hunting wolves!

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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #160 on: September 19, 2014, 08:32:12 AM »
you and me both

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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #161 on: September 19, 2014, 08:55:38 AM »
Good for Stevens Co. Sort it out!
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #162 on: September 19, 2014, 08:58:38 AM »
That would be sweet if wdfw sold raffle tags for the remaining 3 wolves that needed taken out.
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #163 on: September 19, 2014, 09:09:20 AM »
It is, and always has been, legal to protect ones self from a wolf or any other animal that may injure/harm a human.  Also, no state action forced anyone off of any private property.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Wash. reports new wolf pack found
« Reply #164 on: September 19, 2014, 09:26:09 AM »
It is, and always has been, legal to protect ones self from a wolf or any other animal that may injure/harm a human.  Also, no state action forced anyone off of any private property.  :rolleyes:

I think the sheep rancher figured out after watching WDFW in action, it would be better to move his sheep while he still had some, I would say that's being forced out do to WDFW's incompetents. Remember the wedge slop and $70 some thousand dollars?

 


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