pasayten high buck hunters in closed areas of harts pass.

[grizzlyadams]

Harts Pass is less than a mile from the Pasayten Wilderness boundary on my maps.

Actually the wilderness boundary is less than a half mile from Harts Pass. Perfectly legal to camp at the pass and walk 1/2 mile across the boundary and hunt. If the high buck rifle hunters don't want to hike in farther to actually be successful than it seems to me that leaves more country free of hunters further in. So as a bow hunter just hike in farther and get your deer.

[Methow Bowman]

You got to be nuts, the trail that is the legal boundary
is not a half mile. If you are referring to the stretch
above dead horse point, then no such thing. You have obviously
never been on the Robinson creek trail boundary........
I am not talking the trail head or as a crow fly's. A half mile maybe
gets you to the top of the ridge. Then the trail boundary is still a ridge
over. This area is like mowing my lawn.......cannot believe
you think that in the stretch being discussed here.
you have never been on the boundary trail that is clear.......

[Methow Bowman]

My deer has never been in question.
took my deer on the 4th.
it's pure ethics here.
you must have been one of them.
this subject shows the ignorance of knowledge
of the area plane and simple
these guys are weekend warriors
through and through with no true knowledge.

[Bob33]

The Pasayten Wilderness boundaries near Harts Pass are shown here:

[boneaddict]

I believe what he is saying is that the Pasayten unit 203 has a different boundary than the Pasayten Wilderness.   I am not sure what the regs are or what boundary they are using for the high hunt.  I would have to go and read that again in the current regs.

[boneaddict]

If you go to their unit map on go hunt you can see what he is talking about.   Unit 203 is not defined with the wilderness boundary.   There is quite a finger of wilderness that is outside of 203. Looks small on a map, but I guarantee you that is some serious country

[3nails]

My deer has never been in question.
took my deer on the 4th.
it's pure ethics here.
you must have been one of them.
this subject shows the ignorance of knowledge
of the area plane and simple
these guys are weekend warriors
through and through with no true knowledge.

I'm still confused as to your position on the boundaries as you keep referring to 203. As far as I can tell the "area" open to the high hunt is the "wilderness", not a GMU. Just trying to see where you are coming from a little clearer.

[Bob33]

If you go to their unit map on go hunt you can see what he is talking about.   Unit 203 is not defined with the wilderness boundary.   There is quite a finger of wilderness that is outside of 203. Looks small on a map, but I guarantee you that is some serious country

"Alpine Lakes, Mount Baker, Glacier Peak, Pasayten, All Wilderness Areas on the Olympic Peninsula, Henry Jackson Wilderness Areas and Lake Chelan Recreation Area."
Alpline Lakes, Mount Baker, and Glacier Peak are wilderness areas. None of them are names for a GMU. They are followed by "Pasayten". I believe a reasonable person would conclude that is referencing the Pasayten Wilderness, not the Pasayten GMU.

[Methow Bowman]

Now read the unit description of your legal
hunting boundaries you will see that
the Robinson creek trail is the boundary
per department of fish and wildlife's
boundary's. You are failing to make the connection.
unit 203. Then you will see what line
is there is not the hunt unit boundaries.
this is so useless..........

[3nails]

Now read the unit description of your legal
hunting boundaries you will see that
the Robinson creek trail is the boundary
per department of fish and wildlife's
boundary's. You are failing to make the connection.
unit 203. Then you will see what line
is there is not the hunt unit boundaries.
this is so useless..........

Why are you hung up on "203"? The "wilderness" is what's open.   

[boneaddict]

Certainly an interesting conversation with valid points.  The regs list the wilderness areas under the unit category and refer you to page 100 for unit boundary discussion, however as noted Baker is not a unit name as far as I am aware, so which is it?   I would assume wilderness areas.   Glad I hunt somewhere else.

[bobcat]

Now read the unit description of your legal
hunting boundaries you will see that
the Robinson creek trail is the boundary
per department of fish and wildlife's
boundary's. You are failing to make the connection.
unit 203. Then you will see what line
is there is not the hunt unit boundaries.
this is so useless..........

Why are you hung up on "203"? The "wilderness" is what's open.   

Didn't we all come to the conclusion in this thread that the high hunt boundary is the Pasayten wilderness boundary, which is different than the Pasayten GMU boundary?

You still may have a legitimate complaint. It sounds like people are hunting from roads, and that surely cannot be within the high hunt area.

[kirkl]

wheres Bigtex

[Bob33]

Certainly an interesting conversation with valid points.  The regs list the wilderness areas under the unit category and refer you to page 100 for unit boundary discussion, however as noted Baker is not a unit name as far as I am aware, so which is it?   I would assume wilderness areas.   Glad I hunt somewhere else.

Page 100 is simply a list of sources for maps, not boundary descriptions.

A reasonable person would conclude the reference is to the Pasayten Wilderness, not the Pasayten GMU. I'd give anyone 100 to 1 odds that's how enforcement interprets it.

[Elkaholic daWg]

wheres Bigtex

from what I read here why would he be needed. Unless they are hunting outside of the wilderness boundary  they are doing nothing wrong