pasayten high buck hunters in closed areas of harts pass.

[boneaddict]

Certainly not argueing with you Bob, but page 100 on the internet is the first page of the unit descriptions.  I've always assumed it was the wilderness, and not the unit.



Interesting, I entered page 100 and it goes to that (actually page 107   )

[bobcat]

It was very clear in the regulations up until this year, when they changed the wording. Even then, I could see people easily interpreting it either way.

I wonder why they don't have the GMU 203 boundary be the same as the wilderness boundary?

[boneaddict]

Weird huh?

[kirkl]

wheres Bigtex

from what I read here why would he be needed. Unless they are hunting outside of the wilderness boundary  they are doing nothing wrong

Because he may actually know what boundaries are used.

[Bob33]

Certainly not argueing with you Bob, but page 100 on the internet is the first page of the unit descriptions.  I've always assumed it was the wilderness, and not the unit.



Interesting, I entered page 100 and it goes to that (actually page 107   )

Not in my 2014 regulations.

[JimmyHoffa]

It was very clear in the regulations up until this year, when they changed the wording. Even then, I could see people easily interpreting it either way.

I wonder why they don't have the GMU 203 boundary be the same as the wilderness boundary?

They'll just have to add a few more pages to the regs with maps that even a Barney watcher can follow.

[7mag.]

I can see why Methow Bowman is upset, however, I believe he may be interpreting the boundaries incorrectly (or I am). Reading the regs, I am not led to believe that the high hunt boundaries are based on GMU boundaries. I am led to believe that they are based on Wilderness boundaries. As far as that goes, I have packed into the Paseyton out of Hart's Pass, with Aaron Lee, and he told me that when we entered into the wilderness, we could begin hunting.

[grizzlyadams]

You got to be nuts, the trail that is the legal boundary
is not a half mile. If you are referring to the stretch
above dead horse point, then no such thing. You have obviously
never been on the Robinson creek trail boundary........
I am not talking the trail head or as a crow fly's. A half mile maybe
gets you to the top of the ridge. Then the trail boundary is still a ridge
over. This area is like mowing my lawn.......cannot believe
you think that in the stretch being discussed here.
you have never been on the boundary trail that is clear.......

Don't know what to tell ya guys. I thought we were talking about Harts Pass. Both my map from USFS along with my GPS maps and my map I got from the ranger station show the boundary in the same place. No one says you have to hike the trail to get to the boundary. Part of the boundary line is indeed 1/2-5/8 of a mile right off of Harts Pass as the crow flies. Like it or not it's there and I suggest some of you get the proper maps. The GOHUNT map is about the most inaccurate map I have ever viewed.

Myself.... I wasn't there and do not advocate just crossing the border to hunt. I prefer to be inside the wilderness 10 miles or more. You can't dispute the border though. It's there on several maps. If your map doesn't show it clearly than I suggest maybe finding a better more up to date map.

[grizzlyadams]

I can see why Methow Bowman is upset, however, I believe he may be interpreting the boundaries incorrectly (or I am). Reading the regs, I am not led to believe that the high hunt boundaries are based on GMU boundaries. I am led to believe that they are based on Wilderness boundaries. As far as that goes, I have packed into the Paseyton out of Hart's Pass, with Aaron Lee, and he told me that when we entered into the wilderness, we could begin hunting.

Absolutely correct. It is not GMU boundary's it's the wilderness boundary.

[luckyman]

Yep, The general season list it as a gmu 203 but the high hunt has no gmu's listed, only refers to it as wilderness.
That would lead me to believe they are two completely different hunts with different boundrys.
Page 100 took me to maps suppliers going by the actual page # shown at the bottom of each page.

I think two different hunts with different boundrys is whats is confusing

[R2Rcoulee]

I was up in the Horseshoe Basin this year (a lot of hunters), a game warden was back in there on horseback checking tags.  Maybe they should check Harts Pass more often as that area is extremely busy also during the high hunt.  I have seen a few guys camping on the roads and then hunting the ridgelines towards Windy Pass and Haystack MT.

[boneaddict]

I wonder if this year was more crowded than normal (hard to believe) because of the fires up the Chewack. 

[R2Rcoulee]

The game warden thought that because the fires this summer burnt up peoples general season hunting spots that the high hunt was getting more action.  He said that the Iron Gate TH had more vehicles than he had ever seen.  They had to take their horse trailer off and park it down the road.  There was probably 30 plus cars at the TH the day before the season opened. I'd say 90% of the vehicles were hunters.

[X-Force]

It looks like the Pasayten wilderness deal is settled but I believe Methow Bowman that there could be some people "hunting" closed areas next to the wilderness boundary

[Rodney107]

I dont care if your a inch or 10 miles into the wilderness boundry  if any ones knows harts pass the section I went through is from dead horse point to before the ranger shack up there im sorry to say I dont think any one I seen up there was getting into the high hunt from that location u would need rope and climbing gear to get into hunt able area  the point being made is there are guys hunting areas that shouldn't be in there