Crescent Lake Film Crew

[John B]

Went to Crescent Lake release site today and was turned away by a security guard. He told me they were filming a movie and it was too dangerous for the crew to have hunters there that day. I didn't see anything posted on the entrance sign, and was curious if he/they have the authority to do that. Couldn't find anything on the WDFW website about the closure.

[JJB11B]

Public Land?

[jackelope]

Yes.

[runamuk]

no idea on the authority but yes there is filming going on out there

[jackelope]

I heard about some filming in Monroe too. I assume they're connected. There was 2 WSP cars and a dude with a headset on at the junction of Ben Howard Rd and 203 all day today 2. I assume it's all connected??

[Netminder01]

Any film crew would need to be licensed and apply for permits.

[JJB11B]

I dont believe a "security guard" has the authority to turn away someone from public land. Maybe whoever runs/owns the land.

[jackelope]

They're filming a move called "Man in the High Castle". I'd assume it's on the up and up with all the WSP cars around. Not sure how the whole no admittance to public land thing works but ... They started at 9am and were supposed to be done by 2pm today.

[Netminder01]

I dont believe a "security guard" has the authority to turn away someone from public land. Maybe whoever runs/owns the land.

Yes, you're probably correct but let me clarify.

Although most people wouldn't have the "authority" to turn a people away, the point I was trying to illustrate was the filming crew would need to be licensed and apply for permits. When they apply for permits, they also need to post them with a reasonable amount of time and in reasonable places in order to provide notice but more importantly, one of the crew (usually the PA) must have it on them at all times and produce it if asked.

In this case, it seems like the state would also have a copy (being a park) but I don't think they're permitted to close the park.  The more interesting aspect of this is the release - when filming in public or when an average passer-by could be in the shot the crew needs to provide ample notification that 'this area' or 'that area' would be in the shot.  This reduces the requirement of the crew from getting releases from everyone.

[JJB11B]

I see your point...Still I'd have a hard time turning around and leaving...

[John B]

It was just after 2 when I pulled in. I headed down the road to Cherry Valley, since hunting hours only go till 4. I left a voice-mail for Brian Boehm, the WDFW area manager, if they're not permitted to stop people from hunting, I hope he will take care of the issue.

[JJB11B]

I dont believe a "security guard" has the authority to turn away someone from public land. Maybe whoever runs/owns the land.

Yes, you're probably correct but let me clarify.

Although most people wouldn't have the "authority" to turn a people away, the point I was trying to illustrate was the filming crew would need to be licensed and apply for permits. When they apply for permits, they also need to post them with a reasonable amount of time and in reasonable places in order to provide notice but more importantly, one of the crew (usually the PA) must have it on them at all times and produce it if asked.

In this case, it seems like the state would also have a copy (being a park) but I don't think they're permitted to close the park.  The more interesting aspect of this is the release - when filming in public or when an average passer-by could be in the shot the crew needs to provide ample notification that 'this area' or 'that area' would be in the shot.  This reduces the requirement of the crew from getting releases from everyone.

you know it just ocurred to me that the Hanford Reservation is public "federal" land and there is a private security company that keeps John Q Public out of there.....So I am wrong to some extent with my previous comment

[Netminder01]

I see your point...Still I'd have a hard time turning around and leaving...

I agree!  If you ever encounter this sort of thing again - especially in the woods you can ask to see the permit or ask to speak to the PA (Production Assistant); they should be more than willing to show it to you.  In fact, if the WSP had officers out there, they might have had a copy also.

Still sucks tho!

[huntinguy]

[/quote]you know it just ocurred to me that the Hanford Reservation is public "federal" land and there is a private security company that keeps John Q Public out of there.....So I am wrong to some extent with my previous comment
[/quote]

Federal land and Public land are not the same. Hanford is a Federal Facility, and was never set up for public access. Where as a Federal Forest is for public access.

Good question by the OP. Waiting to see what answer he gets back.

[John B]

WSP was not at the release site, but I did see them a few miles down the road, where there appeared to be more filming going on. I will certainly ask to see a permit if something like this happens again, if they don't have one I will inform them of Washington's hunter harassment law and continue with my hunting.