WDFW to Hold wolf Meeting Colville

[PA BEN]

http://www.chewelahindependent.com/news/local-news/1865-wdfw-to-hold-meeting-colville
WDFW to Hold Meeting Colville
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The public will have an opportunity to discuss wolf management activities in northeast portion of the state with Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) leaders during a meeting Tuesday, Oct. 7, in Colville.
The meeting will take place from 6 to 9 p.m. in the Colville Ag Trade Center at the Northeast Washington Fairgrounds, 317 West Astor Ave.
WDFW officials will provide information on recent wolf attacks on livestock in the region, and on the packs involved in those incidents – the Huckleberry pack in Stevens County and the Profanity Peak pack in Ferry County.
Meeting participants will be able to share their views on wolf management and recovery and to ask questions of WDFW Director Phil Anderson, Eastern Regional Director Steve Pozzanghera, and other department staff.
WDFW actions this summer to protect sheep from the Huckleberry pack are described in a question-and-answer document on the department's website at http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/huckleberry_faq.html.
More recently, WDFW officials confirmed that wolves were responsible for killing a cow and calf at a cattle grazing site in Ferry County, within the range of the newly discovered Profanity Peak pack. WDFW wildlife conflict specialists continue to monitor that situation.
In 2011, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service removed gray wolves from the federal list of endangered species in the eastern third of the state, but the species is still protected under Washington state law. The state Wolf Conservation and Management Plan and state laws set the parameters for responding to wolf predation on livestock.
The department has also established a Wolf Advisory Group that provides input to the department on wolf plan implementation. More information on that group is available on WDFW's website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/wag/.
-Submitted by WDFW

[Special T]

Other than the "new" info they distribute this is an appeasement meeting.

I bet they have more than one "Armed Guard" at this meeting.

[pianoman9701]

You should find out if Wolf Haven will be opening satellite offices around the state!  Remember: there's a high incidence of rectal cancer for the attendees of these meetings - you know, from the second-hand smoke being blown up your backside. Have fun.

[mfswallace]

Would be interesting for the state to explain their involvement with all the pro wolf groups in building the ridiculous "wolf management/growing" plan as appossed to setting legislation more realistically based on science and other states experiences that were forced to deal with the reintroduction of wolves...

[PA BEN]

I know BearPaw will be at this meeting and he is well spoken. Maybe we should make a list of questions for him to bring to the meeting. For example; Why is the WDFW involving themselves with all the pro wolf groups?

[pianoman9701]

They've been playing patty cake with pro-wolf groups from the beginning. One reason is that the pro-wolf groups have at least one sitting member on our wildlife commission, possibly two. It's the wildlife commission that writes the rules and accepts or denies the suggestions of the WDFW.

[Special T]

The ONLY questions I would ask are ones that point out the hypocracy of the WDFW. Question 1 Why was it determined that the captured wolf should go to wolf haven? Question 2 Why was the $ put up the cattlemens associaiton to hire an EXPERIENCED trapper  Not taken? (Answer was already given they didnt want to seem impartial)
question 3 How is working with Wolf Haven keeping the department "impartial" on this issue?

[idahohuntr]

I'm not sure what the rationale behind donating a live wolf is/was...seems like a slippery slope.  Be curious to hear their justification.

On the "impartail" stuff...I think they probably don't want money or help from any really biased group like the cattlemens or Cascadia Wildlands or whoever on the SCIENTIFIC/DATA collection side of things

When it comes to interacting with the public and things like taking money for wolf poaching reward, donating this wolf, or working with cattle ranchers to protect livestock and kill wolves...I think each side could say "why are you playing nice with the enemy?".  In those instances I don't see them necessarily being "impartial".     

[Special T]

You can keep regurgiating that clap trap. The Cattlemens association said they would Pay for a trapper of thier shoice and a WDFW Bio could ride along, collect data, put on collars and whatever else they wanted to do. Cattlemens association wanted a trapper with EXPERIENCE to catch the wolves, not an Bio who's experties is Biology not trapping.

Do i need to remind everyone that they took $ From CNW for a poatching reward and that was OK.

[Special T]

I'm not sure what the rationale behind donating a live wolf is/was...seems like a slippery slope.  Be curious to hear their justification.

On the "impartail" stuff...I think they probably don't want money or help from any really biased group like the cattlemens or Cascadia Wildlands or whoever on the SCIENTIFIC/DATA collection side of things

When it comes to interacting with the public and things like taking money for wolf poaching reward, donating this wolf, or working with cattle ranchers to protect livestock and kill wolves...I think each side could say "why are you playing nice with the enemy?".  In those instances I don't see them necessarily being "impartial". 

I point this out because IF they took $ and resources from both sides THAT would be impartial but since they ONLY take it from the other side with the explanation that it would make them look Impartial is BS

[idahohuntr]

I'm not sure what the rationale behind donating a live wolf is/was...seems like a slippery slope.  Be curious to hear their justification.

On the "impartail" stuff...I think they probably don't want money or help from any really biased group like the cattlemens or Cascadia Wildlands or whoever on the SCIENTIFIC/DATA collection side of things

When it comes to interacting with the public and things like taking money for wolf poaching reward, donating this wolf, or working with cattle ranchers to protect livestock and kill wolves...I think each side could say "why are you playing nice with the enemy?".  In those instances I don't see them necessarily being "impartial". 

I point this out because IF they took $ and resources from both sides THAT would be impartial but since they ONLY take it from the other side with the explanation that it would make them look Impartial is BS

I stand by what I said regarding accepting money/help on the scientific aspects.  If the Cattlemen's want to donate money to increase the wolf poaching reward WDFW would accept it.

[CAMPMEAT]

I just talked to one of BIG cattlemen up near the Wedge/Profanity areas that has their cattle there. He told me that the Cattlemans Association is pretty much giving the WDFW an ultimatum to either kill the wolves or they will hire their own trapper and have him/her come in and kill the wolves.


He also told me someone, blaming the greenie, tree huggers, have shot and killed 9 cows, yes 9 moo cows with a gun......
This is straight from the bosses mouth, today, 2 hours ago.

[pianoman9701]

One question I would ask is how the WDFW intends to keep track of the wolves that it captures and gives to Wolf Haven.

[pianoman9701]

In addition, shouldn't they be neutered? If they're being introduced into an environment that has not only wolves, but wolf hybrids, they shouldn't be allowed to breed.

[wolfbait]

I just talked to one of BIG cattlemen up near the Wedge/Profanity areas that has their cattle there. He told me that the Cattlemans Association is pretty much giving the WDFW an ultimatum to either kill the wolves or they will hire their own trapper and have him/her come in and kill the wolves.


He also told me someone, blaming the greenie, tree huggers, have shot and killed 9 cows, yes 9 moo cows with a gun......
This is straight from the bosses mouth, today, 2 hours ago.

I think thats probably their best plan so far, trying to play WDFW's game only cost ranchers more $$$ with no action by WDFW, as we have already seen. I think WDFW could be sued for their wishy-washy wolf predation management.