Berger hunting vs target bullet ?

[sirmissalot]

Interestingly my experience with the new long range accubond has been close to the same as a Berger. These type of bullets are designed to still expand (or fragment) at lower velocities. It's either full weight retention or fragmentation it seems, although I can't say I'm unhappy with the performance of the LR accubonds so far.

This is from the opposite shoulder of a bear, burried in its hide after it busted both shoulders. What used to be a 190 grain bullet fired from 300 yards.



I'm more of a weight retention guy, usually prefer accubond type performance. I know this thread is about Bergers but I think this goes along with the subject of fragmenting bullets.

[huntandjeep]

OK so I just got off the phone with my smith and he said he's cut apart 100's of the targets and hunting Bergers and he couldn't see a visual difference. He told me hes used the targets to work up loads and then switched to the hunting with no change needed. Also got an email this morning saying my backordered box has shipped 

Doesn't surprise me. It's the same bullet in a different color box.

. That's what John Porter told my guy when he questioned him about it.

[yorketransport]

OK so I just got off the phone with my smith and he said he's cut apart 100's of the targets and hunting Bergers and he couldn't see a visual difference. He told me hes used the targets to work up loads and then switched to the hunting with no change needed. Also got an email this morning saying my backordered box has shipped 

Doesn't surprise me. It's the same bullet in a different color box.

In my experience this isn't the case. I've weighed both Target and Hunting VLDs of the same weight in .308 and .284 caliber and they are different. The weights are slightly different and the length from base to ogive is slightly different (but consistently different) between the two styles as well. I have to adjust my seating depth when I switch between the two.

Neither is my first choice for a hunting bullet, but I send a lot of Bergers down range when target shooting and they're hard to beat. The 168 VLD Hunting is my go to bullet in the 284 Win Striker. I'm going to try the 168 Matrix though just because they're a little easier to get. I have a box sitting here for when I get time.

Andrew

[jasnt]

OK so I just got off the phone with my smith and he said he's cut apart 100's of the targets and hunting Bergers and he couldn't see a visual difference. He told me hes used the targets to work up loads and then switched to the hunting with no change needed. Also got an email this morning saying my backordered box has shipped 

Doesn't surprise me. It's the same bullet in a different color box.

In my experience this isn't the case. I've weighed both Target and Hunting VLDs of the same weight in .308 and .284 caliber and they are different. The weights are slightly different and the length from base to ogive is slightly different (but consistently different) between the two styles as well. I have to adjust my seating depth when I switch between the two.

Andrew

I second that