Berger hunting vs target bullet ?

[wastickslinger]

Well at 75 yards a 190 grain hunting vld  sure acted like garbage on my bull. 3 well placed shots, bull never flinched for the first 2, I think on the third he tipped over from all the muzzle blast. Not one exit. All 3 bullets tuned to shrapnel on impact. A 12 gauge would have been better.

Sorry fir the thread jack. Just providing some real life experience with the hunting vld.

[jasnt]

I've never had that exp. Every animal I've ever shot with my vlds  was toast. And all exited. Even the large bear this year.  

[sirmissalot]

Well at 75 yards a 190 grain hunting vld  sure acted like garbage on my bull. 3 well placed shots, bull never flinched for the first 2, I think on the third he tipped over from all the muzzle blast. Not one exit. All 3 bullets tuned to shrapnel on impact. A 12 gauge would have been better.

Sorry fir the thread jack. Just providing some real life experience with the hunting vld.

That's what they are designed to do, and my experience with them as well.

[wastickslinger]

Well at 75 yards a 190 grain hunting vld  sure acted like garbage on my bull. 3 well placed shots, bull never flinched for the first 2, I think on the third he tipped over from all the muzzle blast. Not one exit. All 3 bullets tuned to shrapnel on impact. A 12 gauge would have been better.

Sorry fir the thread jack. Just providing some real life experience with the hunting vld.

That's what they are designed to do, and my experience with them as well.

I like bullet weight retention. The energy should carry farther than the hide on the entrance. A good hunting bullet will stay together and break bones. I will stick with accubonds.

[bobcat]

I definitely wouldn't trust Bergers on an elk hunt. But in a couple weeks I'll be trying them out on deer and antelope in Wyoming. I've never used them before, but they are sure accurate in my Browning A bolt. I didn't have time to mess around so when I loaded some up I only tried one load - 58 grains of H4831. The first time I shot them at 100 yards I got a 3/4 inch 5 shot group. A week later after having adjusted my scope, I shot two more to verify zero, and both shots went in the same hole. Then yesterday we went out and shot at 300 yards. I only shot two, but they were less than an inch apart.

[jay.sharkbait]

Well at 75 yards a 190 grain hunting vld  sure acted like garbage on my bull. 3 well placed shots, bull never flinched for the first 2, I think on the third he tipped over from all the muzzle blast. Not one exit. All 3 bullets tuned to shrapnel on impact. A 12 gauge would have been better.

Sorry fir the thread jack. Just providing some real life experience with the hunting vld.

Were you using the 300 Ultra you have for sale in the marketplace?

[jasnt]

Well at 75 yards a 190 grain hunting vld  sure acted like garbage on my bull. 3 well placed shots, bull never flinched for the first 2, I think on the third he tipped over from all the muzzle blast. Not one exit. All 3 bullets tuned to shrapnel on impact. A 12 gauge would have been better.

Sorry fir the thread jack. Just providing some real life experience with the hunting vld.

Were you using the 300 Ultra you have for sale in the marketplace?

that's what I was wondering. Could be too much speed at that range.  The young bear I shot last year I had used my 300win mag and a 185 vld. Tho even at 40 yards it punched threw and threw leaving a massive trama trail in its wake. Punching threw bone on both sides. This years bear was big fat sow and I shot it with my 243. And 105gr vld. It also went threw and threw.  Maybe its just not a good round for busting elk shoulders. But I'm confident shooting bergers and it will be what I use in my elk rifle tho I'd rather destroy the vitals than a good elk shoulder.

I see this debate alot with bergers most agrea they shoot great but some guys have a bad experience and decided they hate 'em others rave about there performance.

I think its all about your style. Some guys prefer to bust the shoulders so its drt, others prefer a quartering away shot.

ime the guys not happy with Berger vlds love the acubonds.

different styles of bullets for different styles of hunting.

[wastickslinger]

Well at 75 yards a 190 grain hunting vld  sure acted like garbage on my bull. 3 well placed shots, bull never flinched for the first 2, I think on the third he tipped over from all the muzzle blast. Not one exit. All 3 bullets tuned to shrapnel on impact. A 12 gauge would have been better.

Sorry fir the thread jack. Just providing some real life experience with the hunting vld.

Were you using the 300 Ultra you have for sale in the marketplace?

Yes I was referring to my rum that's for sale. That's not why it's for sale though.

[Crunchy]

I love the 168vld out of my 7mm mag.  They shoot very well and the  two deer Ive shot with them dropped in their tracks.

[huntandjeep]

Guess I'll have to pick a box up and try them out. I'm not looking at using them for hunting . Just looking for a more readily available option for more trigger time at longer ranges. I've had a box of the hunting bullets on backorder for 6 months now and I'm down to 20 left on the first box so haven't been shooting as much as I want.

[actionshooter]

Guess I'll have to pick a box up and try them out. I'm not looking at using them for hunting . Just looking for a more readily available option for more trigger time at longer ranges. I've had a box of the hunting bullets on backorder for 6 months now and I'm down to 20 left on the first box so haven't been shooting as much as I want.

I won a box of 500 Berger Hunting VLDs 6 months ago and am still waiting on them.

 Been paying attention to this, and Its seems everytime there is a thread about the Berger Hunting bullets it goes the same, some guys say they are fine and some say they are horrible, guess I will just have to find out myself.

[huntandjeep]

OK so I just got off the phone with my smith and he said he's cut apart 100's of the targets and hunting Bergers and he couldn't see a visual difference. He told me hes used the targets to work up loads and then switched to the hunting with no change needed. Also got an email this morning saying my backordered box has shipped 

[wastickslinger]

OK so I just got off the phone with my smith and he said he's cut apart 100's of the targets and hunting Bergers and he couldn't see a visual difference. He told me hes used the targets to work up loads and then switched to the hunting with no change needed. Also got an email this morning saying my backordered box has shipped 

Doesn't surprise me. It's the same bullet in a different color box.

[BULLBLASTER]

I have killed a few animals with each. All have been shorter range but i didnt see much difference in performance. Only one animal was able to keep on its feet after the hit. It was a muley that ran 20 yards. I may send a 215 hybrid target into a moose next month. If i do ill post performqnce pics.

[kentrek]

I wanna say when I talked to berger they said ther was a 1/64 difference in jacket thickness

Don't quote me tho

Both the hunting and target bullets have killed thousands of elk