2015 Hoyt's were announced today!

[steeliedrew]

Well, what's everyone think?

I'm wondering if it will be possible to retrofit the new "ZT Turbo" cams and the new "Zero Torque Cable Guard System" onto a 2014 Carbon Spyder Turbo?

Also, they claim that the new turbo models will do 350fps ATA. What's the likelihood of the bow doing anywhere near that with say a 450 grain arrow at 29" draw length and the bow set at 80lbs? I'm thinking their test parameters were quite a bit different than that. Haha. Still some pretty cool, new technology. The Nitrum series is pretty cool for those who want an aluminum bow.

Here's a link to Hoyt's Facebook page to view the new technology. You don't need a Facebook account to view it. https://m.facebook.com/HoytBowhunting?v=timeline&filter=1&refid=17

[steeliedrew]

[steeliedrew]

[scottcrb]

Looks interesting might have to shoot one this off season

[D-Rock425]

They were probably tested with a 350 grain arrow at 70#

[D-Rock425]

When the rep shows up ill go shoot all of them and let you know what i think.

[D-Rock425]

Really with that turbo was like 35" ATA.

[Crunchy]

They were probably tested with a 350 grain arrow at 70#

and 30 inch draw

[D-Rock425]

ATA is a better test standard than IBO I believe.  IBO has no draw lenght standard they can shoot 32 inch draw for there testing.

[blackveltbowhunter]

I really like the specs and look of the nitrum 34. And depending on how it shoots I could easily be upgrading. Hoyt addressed my major concern with the past several years bows with the zero torque cable guard and interested to see how it affects cam lean. Coupled with what (should be) a very stiff riser design and significant performance boost over my current setup, so far I like what I see.

[scottcrb]

Any prices posted yet ?

[RadSav]

Any prices posted yet ?

 

[RadSav]

I really think the new riser design is going to be a winner.  Same grip which I was hoping would change a little, but all in all some great things out of Hoyt this year!  I know more than one Hoyt addict that is headed to the bank for a second mortgage this year.

Wish they could have figured out a way to drop 8-10 ounces off the Edge Elite!  Guess I need to wait at least another year.

[GameHunter1959]

I bought a Diamond Carbon Fiber bow $649 at Cabela's. I'm a first year bow hunter, so I went cheaper to see if I liked it. I really enjoyed bow hunting. Shot my biggest buck ever a few weeks back. I was thinking of upgrading to a better bow, but I want something light weight and accurate.

Any suggestions?

[D-Rock425]

I really think the new riser design is going to be a winner.  Same grip which I was hoping would change a little, but all in all some great things out of Hoyt this year!  I know more than one Hoyt addict that is headed to the bank for a second mortgage this year.

Wish they could have figured out a way to drop 8-10 ounces off the Edge Elite!  Guess I need to wait at least another year.

i'm picking up 3 new bows this year so ill neef that second mortgage.

[D-Rock425]

I cant believe radsav actually said good things about hoyts.   I cant wait to shoot them here in a few weeks when the rep is in.

[steeliedrew]

I called Hoyt this morning and was told that the preview bows are starting to ship out today to all the shops so look for them soon at your local dealer. I was also told that the 2015 turbo models with the ZT Turbo cams are not being offered in 80lb draw weight. I'm guessing that after the ATA show custom orders for 80lbers might be an option. I was told that the new cam design is so good that shooting a 70lb will be like shooting an 80lber. I'm hoping we'll be able to retrofit the ZT cams onto the 2014 Carbon spyder turbos.

[RadSav]

I cant believe radsav actually said good things about hoyts.   I cant wait to shoot them here in a few weeks when the rep is in.

Hoyt freaks!  Never remember anything good.  Just dwell on the things someone dared to say about the all mighty force of the dark side.

For clarification...finally you no longer have to shoot 80# to get what you want.  Our new 70# turbo has finally reached the bar set by everyone else.  So no longer any need to shoot 80# to match Bear, PSE and Bowtech's 70# bows.

[h20hunter]

 

[RadSav]

 

[steeliedrew]

Coming to a dealer near you!

[xXLojackXx]

Looks like Hoyt took an Elite Energy riser and flipped it upside down with the split riser box.

I recently picked up a Bowtech RPM 360 and get damn near the same KE at 70lbs as I do my Hoyt at 84lbs. Hmmmm.....

[D-Rock425]

Im still waiting on word for when the new ones arrive.  When I know you'll know.

[D-Rock425]

Looks like Hoyt took an Elite Energy riser and flipped it upside down with the split riser box.

I recently picked up a Bowtech RPM 360 and get damn near the same KE at 70lbs as I do my Hoyt at 84lbs. Hmmmm.....

that riser design has been in hoyts target bows for years just moved it over into their hunting line up.

[pianoman9701]

I cant believe radsav actually said good things about hoyts.   I cant wait to shoot them here in a few weeks when the rep is in.

Hoyt freaks!  Never remember anything good.  Just dwell on the things someone dared to say about the all mighty force of the dark side.

For clarification...finally you no longer have to shoot 80# to get what you want.  Our new 70# turbo has finally reached the bar set by everyone else.  So no longer any need to shoot 80# to match Bear, PSE and Bowtech's 70# bows.

Their customer service was great when my 8 year old Reflex cracked 3 weeks before the opener a few years ago. Not only did Archery World get it overnighted, but Hoyt gave me a straight across warranty or upgrade trade option, which I took. I had the bow back and fully set up with a full two weeks to practice before the season. The arrows go where I aim them, so I'll stick with the company that took care of me. I know others do the same, but I'm very satisfied with both the dealer and the manufacturer.

[steeliedrew]

Im still waiting on word for when the new ones arrive.  When I know you'll know.

I'm guessing the local dealers will have them sometime between today and wednesday. 

[D-Rock425]

Lets hope.

[TheHunt]

I will be looking for a good writeup for these bows.

[steeliedrew]

Lets hope.

Hey D-Rock,

I just stopped into the Nock Point. They got the new bows today. I shot a 70lb Carbon Spyder Turbo ZT and a 70lb Nitrum 30. I gotta say, personally I like the feel of the old Z5 cam a little better than the ZT cam. The Nitrum is HEAVY when you pick one up and then pick up a carbon but that's to be expected when comparing the two. The Nitrum is for sure a great looking bow and I like the new Zero torque cable guard they put on the 2015 bows.  I did find out that they'll be able to order the new turbos in 80lbs in December probably.

All that being said the Nitrum is really a sweet machine for those looking for an aluminum bow and the new Carbon Spyder Turbo ZT is really fast at only 70lbs and super light. Stop into The Nock Point and check em out guys.

[Come Get Some]

ATA is a better test standard than IBO I believe.  IBO has no draw lenght standard they can shoot 32 inch draw for there testing.

  Did you mean AMO? IBO is 30" 70Lbs at 5 grains per pound. AMO is 6 grains per pound.

[RadSav]

ATA is a better test standard than IBO I believe.  IBO has no draw lenght standard they can shoot 32 inch draw for there testing.

  Did you mean AMO? IBO is 30" 70Lbs at 5 grains per pound. AMO is 6 grains per pound.

Did AMO change something?  Used to be 60#draw 540 grain arrow at 30".  So it is actually 9 grains.

[D-Rock425]

ATA is a better test standard than IBO I believe.  IBO has no draw lenght standard they can shoot 32 inch draw for there testing.

  Did you mean AMO? IBO is 30" 70Lbs at 5 grains per pound. AMO is 6 grains per pound.

no i meant ATA.  Ill get the info here in a minute.

[D-Rock425]

http://www.rokslide.com/2012-01-09-05-09-42/archery/292-the-truth-in-bow-speed-ata-vs-ibo. Hope this links works.  Its a little article on ibo vs ata and yes i found it on the internet so it has to be true.

[steeliedrew]

So have you shot the new bows yet D-Rock? Not sure if you saw my post above but I shot a couple last night.  Being relatively new to the archery world myself, I'd like to hear from others about the new bows who have been shooting for a while.  Overall, I like em. 

[D-Rock425]

I probably go check them out this evening.  I'll do my first ever bow review for hunt wa.

[Taco280AI]

I like Hoyts, but won't be getting one anytime soon - just picked up a like new Bowtech RPM 360. Super fast and not at all like a typical speed bow. Am impressed with it.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

I probably go check them out this evening.  I'll do my first ever bow review for hunt wa.

 

[_TONY_]

I like Hoyts, but won't be getting one anytime soon - just picked up a like new Bowtech RPM 360. Super fast and not at all like a typical speed bow. Am impressed with it.

[RadSav]

http://www.rokslide.com/2012-01-09-05-09-42/archery/292-the-truth-in-bow-speed-ata-vs-ibo. Hope this links works.  Its a little article on ibo vs ata and yes i found it on the internet so it has to be true.

"Yes" true and "No" true!  IBO among bow manufacturers started off as an unofficial standard.  While the 3% variation probably held true even back then it was an apples to apples comparison just like ATA is.  But bow companies realized that speed sold...In a BIG way!!!  And so the "standard" word was left out and was replaced with "speed".  While some companies attempted to maintain credibility and integrity, others went beyond the standard and started saying "IBO Speed" using for their own guideline IBO's tournament rule allowances.  And when PSE and the original Bowtech started dominating speed bow figures many other companies started to follow suit fudging the "unofficial standards" to achieve a slight advantage over the next guy.

The ATA began to recognize that the standard needed to become an "Official Apple to Apple Standard" as the end consumer could no longer make an educated decision based on IBO.  So the "unofficial" IBO standard became the "official" ATA standard.  It was a very small change to most companies that held on to a mostly honest system.  But a few that had seen the rocket of sales based on the misguided interpretation of IBO the official standard was, and probably is, a considerable gap in figures.

So my interpretation of ATA-vs-IBO is, "They are the same...unless they aren't.  They should be...but they're not always"

[D-Rock425]

Shot both the new carbon and nitrum 30" models this evening.  I really do like the nitrum riser a lot but the 30" ata was way to short for my liking. 

[steeliedrew]

I just picked up an 80lb 2014 Carbon Spyder Turbo. I'm in love. Got her all dialed in tonight. Set at 29" draw and maxed out on draw weight (84 lbs I think) She pushes my 475 grain FMJ 340's at 302FPS!!!

[D.Prociw]

Was at Skookum archery this morning talking with Doug and the UPS pulled up with his shipment of the new bows.  Had to resist the urge to shoot one.  My 2011 carbon matrix still has lots of mileage left in her.

[huntnnw]

People are WAAAAAAAY to tied up in fps and KE...there isnt a bow produced that wouldnt kill any biggame in North America

[D-Rock425]

Probably picking up a nitrum 30 for my wife but im so torn on what to get for myself.   

[BOWHUNTER45]

People are WAAAAAAAY to tied up in fps and KE...there isnt a bow produced that wouldnt kill any biggame in North America

  I have shot a bow for over 35 yrs now and never owned a Hoyt bow .. I seriously can not tell you why . My buddies all shot Hoyts when we were growing up and I think I was shooting a Bear Recurve 

[RadSav]

People are WAAAAAAAY to tied up in fps and KE...there isnt a bow produced that wouldnt kill any biggame in North America

When you are paying a grand or better for something that will be obsolete in six months why not ask for some speed to go along with the sound of flushing money down the crapper

But, I agree.  My best year ever I was shooting maybe 235fps.  117 grain broadhead, 4.18" vanes, 2115 X7 black...A lot of flippin critters died very quickly from that setup.  At least a dozen elk along with 80-100 other big game animals.  I remember one large cow elk at 72 yards whose legs buckled at impact.  When she went down in a hole the only thing I could see was blood dripping off the arrow stuck in a tree behind where she stood.  That setup also managed to take three goat doubles on Catalina.  Two of those doubles were goats in trees...talk about comedy!

That was a Hoyt BTW

[D-Rock425]

New turbo has arrived early test have it pushing a 440 grain arrow (70# 29.5 draw) 305fps

[Greg Mullins]

I just got a Spyder turbo today.With a 480 grain at 70lbs it hit 312 4xs and 313 once .Very smooth great wall and surprisingly forgiving.

[D-Rock425]

I just got a Spyder turbo today.With a 480 grain at 70lbs it hit 312 4xs and 313 once .Very smooth great wall and surprisingly forgiving.

what draw length? Speed number seems a little high to me. For a 480 grain arrow.