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VOTE FOR YOUR FAVORITE 2014 TRAIL CAM PHOTO

Dode
1 (1.6%)
Antlershed
0 (0%)
Bango Skank
3 (4.8%)
bowhunterforever
1 (1.6%)
buckcanyonlodge
0 (0%)
canyelk48
0 (0%)
bigbds61
0 (0%)
danderson
2 (3.2%)
deerhunter_98520
1 (1.6%)
DOsborn
1 (1.6%)
elkh8me
0 (0%)
GETOUTSIDE
1 (1.6%)
h20hunter
0 (0%)
Hunter Dug
1 (1.6%)
Hurricane
0 (0%)
IBspoiled
0 (0%)
Jackelope
9 (14.5%)
jordanramos_79
0 (0%)
jrebel
0 (0%)
jstokes12
0 (0%)
maddog11
2 (3.2%)
Nape.257
1 (1.6%)
NBK
0 (0%)
NOCK NOCK
8 (12.9%)
Pygmy
6 (9.7%)
rosscrazyelk
0 (0%)
Southpole
0 (0%)
Supermag
8 (12.9%)
Terry Dean
1 (1.6%)
Triplej
4 (6.5%)
twistedvines
0 (0%)
Wea300mag
3 (4.8%)
WilliamWallace
5 (8.1%)
Woodman
3 (4.8%)
YJ Guide Service
0 (0%)
Lostbackpacker
1 (1.6%)

Total Members Voted: 62

Voting closed: October 26, 2014, 04:44:19 PM

Author Topic: 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest - WINNERS ANNOUNCED!  (Read 13110 times)

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2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest - WINNERS ANNOUNCED!
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:56:36 PM »
Pick your favorite picture. Everybody gets to vote once.

Thanks to our great sponsors for the donated prizes and thanks to everyone who contributed to make this another fun contest.

Voting will start now and run until next Sunday October 26th.

1st place with the most votes will get the Extreme Elk package.
2nd place in the vote count will get the Phelps Game Calls.
3rd place in the vote count will get the onXmaps smart phone app 1 year subscription.

« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 02:50:34 PM by Smossy's Girl »
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2014, 02:14:38 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2014, 02:15:03 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2014, 02:15:28 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2014, 02:16:29 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2014, 02:18:15 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2014, 02:25:05 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2014, 02:27:15 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2014, 02:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2014, 02:28:14 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2014, 02:28:44 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2014, 02:29:08 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2014, 02:29:34 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2014, 02:37:07 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2014, 02:37:33 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2014, 02:37:59 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2014, 02:39:16 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2014, 02:45:00 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2014, 02:45:24 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2014, 02:45:48 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2014, 03:21:14 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2014, 03:24:48 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2014, 03:25:18 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2014, 03:25:54 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2014, 03:26:23 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2014, 03:26:57 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2014, 03:31:48 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2014, 03:32:43 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2014, 03:35:36 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2014, 03:36:12 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2014, 03:36:34 PM »
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2014, 03:38:12 PM »
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2014, 05:46:37 PM »
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2014, 05:48:59 PM »
Voting is now open.

Thanks again for all the participation.

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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2014, 07:34:23 AM »
Bump...get your votes in!!
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2014, 08:12:54 AM »
I guess I'll add that in the event of a tie, we'll have a re-vote on the photo's involved in the tie.
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2014, 08:15:44 AM »
Man....some tough choices. Great shots. I could settle on the top 5 for me but the top one is tough!

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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2014, 02:29:45 PM »
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2014, 06:59:40 PM »
Lots of great entries :tup:
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Re: VOTE!!! 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest VOTE!!!
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2014, 02:16:03 PM »
We have some winners!!!

1st place with the most votes will get the Extreme Elk package.
CONGRATS to Jackelope for his amazing 1st place elk shot!

2nd place in the vote count will get the Phelps Game Calls.
3rd place in the vote count will get the onXmaps smart phone app 1 year subscription.
For 2nd place, we have a TIE! Congrats to both NOCK NOCK and Supermag! We have a re-vote thread to see which one of you gets 2nd and who gets 3rd :) but in the meantime please both message me your mailing address.

Tiebreaker: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163737.0.html
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Re: 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest - WINNERS ANNOUNCED!
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2014, 04:44:27 PM »
WOW.....only 62 total votes on a site that has 18,000 members. 

Congrats to the winners by the way.....all the pics were awesome this year.   :tup:

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Re: 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest - WINNERS ANNOUNCED!
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2014, 05:05:48 PM »
WOW.....only 62 total votes on a site that has 18,000 members. 

Congrats to the winners by the way.....all the pics were awesome this year.   :tup:

My thoughts exactly, even with people bumping it up. Takes nothin to vote  :dunno: too late now though but yea.

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Re: 2014 Hunt-WA Trail Cam Photo Contest - WINNERS ANNOUNCED!
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2014, 05:28:17 PM »
WOW.....only 62 total votes on a site that has 18,000 members. 

Congrats to the winners by the way.....all the pics were awesome this year.   :tup:

Agreed...awesome pictures this year. I don't feel like I should've won but anyway....
I was hoping there would be more votes. Maybe next time.
Thanks to everyone for participating.
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