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Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« on: October 24, 2014, 03:16:16 PM »
I was wondering what people think of balcktail 3pt or better units would be? i would love to see one on the peninsula. i know there is a lot of meat hunters that will argue against it but there is a ton of open land on all the other units out here. The dickey would work good cause a large chunk is permit only hunting already. It would be a low harvest for the first few years but after that it would begin to produce some good deer. i know there is a lot of pros and cons to this. It would be cool if anybody had biologist info on how it would turn out. I think the peninsula definately produces some of the smaller blacktail bucks around and maybe something like this could help things out. The meat hunters would be mad at first but after a few years when they can kill a much better buck and get a lot more meat maybe they would be onboard with it.

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 03:19:32 PM »
State just had this in their last questionaire, seems the data doesn't support even the 2pt restriction.  :dunno:
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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2014, 03:25:25 PM »
State just had this in their last questionaire, seems the data doesn't support even the 2pt restriction.  :dunno:

im no biologist so i guess they know better but it sure seems like there would be a lot more quality deer would show up if people couldn't just blast as soon as they seen an inch of horn, and maybe have quality bucks breeding the does instead of some dink have no competition. 

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2014, 03:27:44 PM »
You need to just think about how hard it is to find blacktail bucks ...Not that easy ..think about how many you never see because we live in a brush pile . I think 2 pt restriction is plenty good enough for blacktail  :twocents: :tup:

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2014, 03:34:40 PM »
Hold off the trigger when you see the little ones. Big bucks are all over the west side. You just have to find them.


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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2014, 03:35:05 PM »
You need to just think about how hard it is to find blacktail bucks ...Not that easy ..think about how many you never see because we live in a brush pile . I think 2 pt restriction is plenty good enough for blacktail  :twocents: :tup:

Some units are hurting, SAUK, STILLAGUMISH,NOOKSACK, plus others I can imagine. I know you have a good area but others are way low on population.  :bash:

Atleast stop doe, and late season tags. Even with gated roads and stuff these deer are taken a beating in these units . My thought is way to many preditors, plus poaching. :twocents:
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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2014, 03:36:37 PM »
You need to just think about how hard it is to find blacktail bucks ...Not that easy ..think about how many you never see because we live in a brush pile . I think 2 pt restriction is plenty good enough for blacktail  :twocents: :tup:

i would be plenty fine for 2pt also, i just think a place for people that want the challenge of chasing mature blacktails with a little but better odds would be cool. I know how hard it is to find, them 19 years for me and i still havent got a 3 point yet. and i pass up a lot of smaller bucks every year. trying my best to get the best chance possible at a big buck. I have just seen from my dads hunting lease how well the buck population grows when the spikes and small two points arent taken out every year.

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2014, 03:39:20 PM »
Hold off the trigger when you see the little ones. Big bucks are all over the west side. You just have to find them.


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your area has much better buck quality then here, i have passed up many spikes and two points, i have passed a spike everyday ive hunted in modern this year, and one two point, about 4 years ago i knew i had to stop shooting small ones to get the big one...

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2014, 03:54:10 PM »
You need to just think about how hard it is to find blacktail bucks ...Not that easy ..think about how many you never see because we live in a brush pile . I think 2 pt restriction is plenty good enough for blacktail  :twocents: :tup:

Some units are hurting, SAUK, STILLAGUMISH,NOOKSACK, plus others I can imagine. I know you have a good area but others are way low on population.  :bash:

Atleast stop doe, and late season tags. Even with gated roads and stuff these deer are taken a beating in these units . My thought is way to many preditors, plus poaching. :twocents:
There are deer in those units you have mentioned that you will never see until late season ..that's why I am a bowhunter :dunno: :chuckle: Minus the Nooksack ..that is hunted non stop from tribal hunting ..No sense in trying to find a deer there and there are poachers too ..I better not just pick on my tribal friends !

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2014, 04:03:46 PM »
I've passed 8 deer this year. And got a glimpse of one really nice buck I watched all summer on opening morning. I left him alone since then and I'm going to try again tomorrow to see if his I. Q. Had lowered. They aren't dumb. Just because they aren't standing out in the open doesn't mean they aren't there.
Btw what's my area for BT ? I've hunted them from lake Stevens to the Columbia river along with the peninsula. There is big bucks all over. Just have to be lucky enough to catch them making a mistake. The odds are very much in their favor. It's not something more restrictions are going to change.


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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2014, 04:16:20 PM »
When you talk of meat hunters wanting to shoot whatever is legal. I think even the meat hunters would like a mature buck that weighs so much more than a spike or immature 3 point. It takes education and proving this to them. I remember very well how upset I was when the state went to Bull Elk restrictions. I was 18 or so at the time and just didn't get it. Now look at the Elk we are seeing every year.  I also feel we need to create some better habitat. Areas where logging has ceased has ruined the deer population as well. That's what I see in the areas I hunt.

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2014, 04:33:01 PM »
When you talk of meat hunters wanting to shoot whatever is legal. I think even the meat hunters would like a mature buck that weighs so much more than a spike or immature 3 point. It takes education and proving this to them. I remember very well how upset I was when the state went to Bull Elk restrictions. I was 18 or so at the time and just didn't get it. Now look at the Elk we are seeing every year.  I also feel we need to create some better habitat. Areas where logging has ceased has ruined the deer population as well. That's what I see in the areas I hunt.
You nailed that one ( where logging has ceased) LOGGING MEANS DEER  :tup:

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2014, 04:40:39 PM »
I am against all antler point restrictions where there are large areas of easy to access lands for tribal harvest to occur. Why should some people be penalized by this type of regulation to only have those deer harvested by others who do not play by the rules?
Makes no sense to me, and believe me, I know not everything is fair in life.
If it were Eastern and Central Washington, like the Palouse and other farming areas, absolutely use them.

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2014, 07:08:01 PM »
I don't think it makes sense for most blacktail country. Those big bucks are there they are just hard to find and then kill.I Shed hunt Washougal unit (any buck) and Also West klickitat (3 point). I have found some nice 60 to 70 inch sheds in both. There are big bucks in both its just one area is harder to hunt them then the other. I think the point restriction just makes more average size deer, or barely legal 3 points and giant 2 points.

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Re: Blacktail 3pt or better unit????s
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2014, 07:37:46 PM »
Point restrictions make sense on the OP.    Black tails have evolved to have small antlers for a reason.  That is why many never get bigger than a 2 point.

 


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