Long shot anybody?????

[G.R.K]

1073 yrds,Coors will do that.

[runniNgunnin]

i wonder if you could make that shot drinkin Coors light, or only orignal gives the power of 1073 yd shots... 

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

wonder what good Ol lucky lager can do?

[TeacherMan]

  Think how many nice bucks they hit and cant find 

[EastWaViking]

      

[AOD]

SWEET BUCK! AWESOME SHOOTING! :IBCOOL:AS FAR AS ETHICS GO, THESE GUYS THAT SHOOT LONG RANGE (MYSELF INCLUDED) USUALLY PRACTICE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOUR AVERAGE HUNTER. IF YOU THINK IT IS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE YOU MISS GAME ANIMALS @ 300 YARDS TRY SOME FLIPPING TARGET PRACTICE! NO MATTER WHAT THE RANGE IS YOU NEED TO PRACTICE, AFTER THAT IT IS JUST WIND AND GRAVITY. MY 

[PacificNWhunter]

It is what it is I guess....LONG shots are not for me personally. One thing on the range another out in the field...Plus I prefere the challenge of the stalk. But that just my 

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

Ill never get the long range aspect of "hunting" so to speak, what about it is fun? its certainly not "hunting" IMO, but yes its legal.. I just dont get what is fun to someone to see a deer at 1000+ yrds and shoot it, then have the gall to say.. man that was a great hunt!.. IMO that sort of thing is not hunting, what defense can the animal use against you to even the odds at 1000yrds? hell even 5-600... just not for me........

[Colville]

Here's my question:

If I buy a box of ammo and give it to the 1000+ yard shooter, in the field, with a field rest etc can he put 19 of those 20 in a paper plate?

90-95% likelihood of a hit seems the right success rate for shots on live big game before you pull the trigger. Almost every time I've asked this question of these shooters the answer is... silence. If that guy can do it, well done and good for him.

It's my experience that while these guys can in fact hit that paper plate that they are willing to accept an unacceptable likelihood of missing. They know they can hit it but many will accept 6 or 7 in 10 hits, or less.

The question in the end isn't the yardage. It's how far out can you continually and predictably make vital hit 90+% of the shots not just the one you show up to tell us you made. Someone else here may take issue with 90% but that's where the real debate lies, not in the exact yardage.

I'd love some of these guys to put up some u-tubes of a 20 round set in the field on a paper plate at 1000. I think it'd prove very interesting.

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

I could not agree more    I still personally have issue with shots that far, but I think it should be at least 90% accuracy for the mininmum.. I shoot my bow at a 4 in paper plate at 20-80 and if im not 5-5 or 9-10 I wont shoot that far come hunting time... you have to RESPECT the animal. no one should more so then us....

[NoBark]

Hoyt, pretty much the same thing in the archery world too wouldn't you say?  Some guys think it's all about being as accurate as you can from as far away as you can. While others think it's all about being as being as sneaky as you can and getting as close as you can.   

I've noticed that generally speaking, the young guns 30 and under tend to fall into the first and the older crowd tends toward the latter. It will be interesting to see if they change with age or carry the mentallity with them into older age.

I'm an old fart, I'm not impressed with long range hunting. Save it for the range. Can't figure out what's sporting about shooting an animal from a different mountain.

[haugenna]

Here's my question:

If I buy a box of ammo and give it to the 1000+ yard shooter, in the field, with a field rest etc can he put 19 of those 20 in a paper plate?

The very first line is the biggest mistake.  Buying a box of ammo. 

I am just shooting at paper but to do shoot effectively at 1000 yards, you need to take your whole game to the next level, equipment, practice, preparation, and committment. I reload all my ammo.  Fireform the brass to my chamber, trim each case to the same size, weigh the bullets, powder, and brass to make sure each round is almost identical.  Measure the runout of the bullet to very tight tolerances, .002 or better. This is all after spending lots of hours at the range and reloading bench to find the right bullet powder combination. We practice at the range on a portable bench and on a bipod to duplicate field conditions.   
Most people don't come close to this preparation. That is why their max is 300-350. I have left a lot of things out as well. Too many to remember and list.

This is all for shooting paper though!  It is a lot of fun when it all comes together.    

[AOD]

ETHICS, ETHICS. STICK THROWERS WEAR SCENT-LOK CLOTHING, USE TREE STANDS AND COVER SCENT, BAIT BLOCKS, ECT. HOW IS THAT MORE FAIR THAN A LONG RANGE SHOT THROUGH A TARGETS VITALS? YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT GETS YOU OFF AND WE LONG RANGE BOMBERS WILL KEEP KILLING THE STUFF YOU CAN'T GET TO.

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

Hoyt, pretty much the same thing in the archery world too wouldn't you say?  Some guys think it's all about being as accurate as you can from as far away as you can. While others think it's all about being as being as sneaky as you can and getting as close as you can.   

I've noticed that generally speaking, the young guns 30 and under tend to fall into the first and the older crowd tends toward the latter. It will be interesting to see if they change with age or carry the mentallity with them into older age.

I'm an old fart, I'm not impressed with long range hunting. Save it for the range. Can't figure out what's sporting about shooting an animal from a different mountain.

 

I agree with you, Im a little bit of both, I shoot out to what most would call long range 80-100 with my bow all the time and have a 80yrd pin on my hunting bow and would use it in the right situation, however 80yrds being a long long shot for most with a bow is still 80yrds.. not 1000yrds like long range rifle guys clain to be good enough at to kill deer and elk all the time, im over 90% accurate at those ranges year after year and will continue to have a 80yrd pin until im not, i have never used the 80yrd pin yet and hope to not have to but its there.. and there is NOTHING sporting about shooting a animal from the other mountain. I could get into my opinions on that sort of "hunting" but some might take it thw wrong way or get upset at my opinion.. but yes alot of guys these days push the limits with archery equipment... Im all about getting close and really "hunting" the animal but alot of where I hunt is very open and 50-70yrds is close.....

[Hoytstaffshooter83]

ETHICS, ETHICS. STICK THROWERS WEAR SCENT-LOK CLOTHING, USE TREE STANDS AND COVER SCENT, BAIT BLOCKS, ECT. HOW IS THAT MORE FAIR THAN A LONG RANGE SHOT THROUGH A TARGETS VITALS? YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT GETS YOU OFF AND WE LONG RANGE BOMBERS WILL KEEP KILLING THE STUFF YOU CAN'T GET TO.

 


Archers wear scent lok clothing because we HAVE TO.. even with the best scent free technology the winds shift and our stand or set up is ruined... soime do use bait, i do at certain times.. how is that more fair then shooting a deer from 1000yrds? thats easy.... at that distance scent concelmeant really is no issue, neither is movement, noise and any other variable that in a "normal" archery distance would end your hunt while you watch the animal trot away... and as far as keep killing stuff we cant get to? obviously you guys cant seem to get any closer either, which at those ranges is laughable to me because what other reason is there for a 1000yrd shot? other then ego of course...