Initiatives 594 and 591

[lamrith]

Say you bought a gun at an FFL and then end up selling it to a guy today.  The gun is then used in a crime and the police come knocking at the last known owner (you).  Between your selling and the knock, I594 passes.

Say the police and prosecutor decide to charge you for an unlawful transfer.  Would you have to prove when you sold it or would the prosecutor?  With whom does the burden of proof lie?

I'm guessing I am not alone not having any records or even recollection of when I sold some of my guns.

Great point and another reason this law is a nightmare.  The only way they could truly prove that you sold it after the law passed would be if YOU bought it thru an FFL after the law was passed so there is a record of it being in your possession when the law was active...

[pianoman9701]

Also the Clark County Sheriff is not joining the opposition to 594.

I received a response this morning from Sheriff Lucas that he personally opposes the initiative, but has made no public statement of opposition. I made an appeal to him to change his mind. I understand a lame duck not wanting to take on unneeded flack by supporting or opposing voter initiatives. He's been a good sheriff. I hope he considers my points.

"Thank you so much for your response, Sheriff.

I appreciate that you're not up for re-election, so opposing I-594 would certainly subject you to criticism that you could do without on your final months as our Sheriff.  However, without even mentioning the infringement of our Constitutional rights, this initiative is so poorly written and restrictive that it will tie up the Sheriff's Department with the increased pressure to perform an exponentially bigger number of background checks without the needed funding to keep from stretching your department's resources. Your respected opinion may be just enough to defeat this poorly written initiative because the race is getting so close. I humbly request that you reconsider making your opposition public.

Thanks for your service to our county and state. I very much appreciate our Sheriff's department and what you've done for us. I wish you the best of luck for a great and well-deserved retirement.
Most Sincerely,"
PMan

[blackdog]

We have 26 now Kittitas and Klickitat Sheriffs came on board. Lucas in Clark is close! The Mason County Sheriff is a holdout. Anyone know the interim Sheriff in Jefferson?

[blackdog]

Paul Pastore in Pierce County?

[huntrights]

Washington Sheriff's Association
http://www.washeriffs.org/counties.htm

Mason County
Sheriff Casey Salisbury
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_mason.htm
Email: caseys@co.mason.wa.us
Note: the original email was not valid, this is the new one.

Clark County
Sheriff Garry E. Lucas
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_clark.htm
Email: sheriff@clark.wa.gov

Jefferson County
Joe Nole, Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office Chief Criminal Deputy is the interim Sheriff.
jnole@co.jefferson.wa.us

Pierce County
Sheriff Paul Pastor
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_pierce.htm
ppastor@co.pierce.wa.us

Please respectfully ask them to publicly state their opposition to I-594.  All of the reasons have been listed multiple times.  I-594 is unenforceable, it only burdens law-abiding citizens, it does nothing to prevent criminals from obtaining firearms or keep them from committing their malevolent acts, the law is so broadly written that law-abiding citizens will be caught in the net of breaking the I-594 law (i.e. simply loaning a gun to a friend while target shooting on public land), etc.  They should oppose I-594 because it will create a BAD law; they should know this.

Please take a few minutes of your time to write these County Sheriffs.

Thank you.

[blackdog]

The list of County Sheriffs not publically opposing 594 is: Jefferson, Mason, Pierce, King, Snohomish, Skagit, Whatcom, Asotin, Yakima, Kitsap, Island, San Juan and Clark.

[JimmyHoffa]

The list of County Sheriffs not publically opposing 594 is: Jefferson, Mason, Pierce, King, Snohomish, Skagit, Whatcom, Asotin, Yakima, Kitsap, Island, San Juan and Clark.

Jefferson is having a close sheriff's election.  And probably 75% or more of the votes are located in Port Townsend, there might be someplace else in the state that is more left leaning and Obama supporting but not that I've seen.

[Fl0und3rz]

King County Prosecutor Dan Satterberg (Republican) - Running Unopposed!  - It's time to toss this guy out!  Any viable write-in candidates?

Snohomish County Prosecutor Mark Roe (Democrat).  - Running Unopposed!  - It's time to toss this guy out!  Any viable write-in candidates?  There was a recall petition in the works.

http://wagunresponsibility.org/law-enforcement/

[pianoman9701]

Don't forget that Daniel Satterberg dropped the gun charges on one Leland Russell, who fired off a handgun during an altercation related to an auto accident. He was booked on driving and gun charges. The gun charges were later dropped to assist the prosecutor in gaining a conviction for a lesser, non-felony charge. As a result of not having any gun charges or other felonies on his record, Mr. Russell was able to legally purchase a firearm, having passed the federal background check. He used that gun to kill two people in Kent this past April. This is the same Leland Russell who was acquitted in 2006 for a 2002 rape.

The shooting of course has been cited many times as one of the reasons to promote gun control, more specifically, I-594. Much less reported by Seattle and Tacoma papers is the part that prosecutor Satterberg played in Russell's freedom to purchase a gun. Satterberg is not only a proponent of I-594, he helped write it.

[Fl0und3rz]

Good gouge. Thanks.

[huntrights]

The list of County Sheriffs not publically opposing 594 is: Jefferson, Mason, Pierce, King, Snohomish, Skagit, Whatcom, Asotin, Yakima, Kitsap, Island, San Juan and Clark.

Washington Sheriff's Association
http://www.washeriffs.org/counties.htm

Mason County
Sheriff Casey Salisbury
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_mason.htm
Email: caseys@co.mason.wa.us
Note: the original email was not valid, this is the new one.

Clark County
Sheriff Garry E. Lucas
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_clark.htm
Email: sheriff@clark.wa.gov

Jefferson County
Joe Nole, Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office Chief Criminal Deputy is the interim Sheriff.
jnole@co.jefferson.wa.us

Pierce County
Sheriff Paul Pastor
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_pierce.htm
Email: ppastor@co.pierce.wa.us

King County
Sheriff John Urquhart
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_king.htm
http://www.kingcounty.gov/safety/sheriff.aspx
Email: sheriff@kingcounty.gov

Snohomish County
Sheriff Ty Trenary
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_snohomish.htm
http://snohomishcountywa.gov/210/Sheriff
Email: contact.sheriff@snoco.org

Skagit County
Sheriff Will Reichardt
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_skagit.htm
http://www.skagitcounty.net/Departments/Sheriff/main.htm
Email: sheriff@co.skagit.wa.us

Whatcom County
Sheriff Bill Elfo
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_whatcom.htm
http://www.whatcomcounty.us/sheriff
Email: Sheriff@co.whatcom.wa.us or belfo@co.whatcom.wa.us

Asotin County
Interim Sheriff Jim Smith
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_asotin.htm
http://199.68.131.25/index.php/sheriff/
Email: Unknown
Phone: (509) 243-4717

Yakima County
Sheriff Ken Irwin
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_yakima.htm
http://www.yakimacounty.us/sheriff/
Email: kenneth.irwin@co.yakima.wa.us

Kitsap County
Sheriff Steve Boyer
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_kitsap.htm
http://www.kitsapgov.com/sheriff/default.htm
Email: sboyer@co.kitsap.wa.us

Island County
Sheriff Mark Brown
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_island.htm
http://www.islandcounty.net/sheriff/
Email: markb@co.island.wa.us

San Juan County
Sheriff Rob Nou
http://www.washeriffs.org/so_san%20juan.htm
http://www.co.san-juan.wa.us/Sheriff/Default.aspx
Email: robn@sanjuanco.com


Please respectfully ask them to publicly state their opposition to I-594.  All of the reasons have been listed multiple times in other posts.  I-594 is unenforceable, it only burdens law-abiding citizens, it does nothing to prevent criminals from obtaining firearms or keep them from committing their malevolent acts, the law is so badly written that honest law-abiding citizens will be caught in the net of breaking the I-594 law (i.e. simply loaning a gun to a friend while target shooting on public land), etc.  They should oppose I-594 because it will create a BAD law; they should know this.

Please take a few minutes of your time to write these County Sheriffs.  Write a short paragraph in your own words and just copy and paste it in an email to each of the sheriffs individually or send it to all of them at the same time - your choice. Their opposition to one of the worse initiatives (I-594) ever to hit this state is important since they are the ones that will be tasked with enforcement of this unenforceable infringement on our rights.  The email addresses are those that could be found; hopefully they are all valid.

Thank you.


P.S. If people don't stand up for their rights and freedoms, they will most definitely lose them.

Please VOTE! 
VOTE for your rights and freedoms. 

It is very obvious who the BAD players are; VOTE them out of office.  It is also very obvious that I-594 is an extremely BAD initiative.

VOTE YES on I-591 (Protect Our Gun Rights)

VOTE NO on I-594 (The ANTI-GUN Initiative)


Read This:

NRA-ILA
Majority of Washington State Sheriffs Oppose I-594
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2014/10/majority-of-washington-state-sheriffs-oppose-i-594.aspx


GONE HUNTING while it is still legal.

[blackdog]

Just a few days left to get family and friends to vote no I-594. All hands on deck!

[sakoshooter]

I"ve sent a letter to everyone in my address book. I've also been talking to everyone I can on the job sites I'm working on and it surprizes me how many people don't even know about either initiative. The folks that seem to know something think it's all about universal background checks. When I start explaining the rest of the 18 pages they're all confused. This is huge and most folks don't even have a clue. What a shame.
I wrote the NRA about my concerns a month or more ago. They insisted it'd be Ok because they had 2 people on it. I think the NRA dropped the ball so far as the only advertizing they're doing is to gun owners, hunting show watchers and NRA members. Money needed to be spent to advertize on other TV channels so the non-hunting public could hear the truth.

[Mrninninnin]

News release: 11/07/14. Washington State.

TO: All media organizations and groups.
FROM: Gavin Seim, lead organizer of the “I WILL NOT Comply Rally”.

Initiative 594 just passed in Washington State, bringing on residents mandatory gun background checks and making it a felony to privately purchase or even hand a gun to a friend without government permission. We the people of Washington State will not comply with this lawless legislation. The highest law is that of liberty and our Constitution. Our rights will be upheld.

On Dec 13th 2014, just after the law is legally in effect, we stand and disobey the illegal restrictions of i594. We must not wait for our rights to be decided but act swiftly to affirm them. In under 72 hours over 5000 have RSVP’d to this stand on Capital grounds in Olympia and assert their God given rights.

Learn more about this peaceful civil rebellion here: http://callmegav.com/ral/

View the event page here: https://www.facebook.com/events/788109621237033


Joining in the event will be speakers, patriots and families from across the State to remind our legislators that lawless legislation will not be obeyed and to teach others about their rights.
 Will you bow down and lick the boots of tyrants, or will you stand for the liberty of your children? We are not asking permission, we are not standing silent. Our birthright is not theirs to take. We stand peaceful, principled, firm and resolute for the liberty so many have perished for. We stand to uphold law and we will not comply with lawlessness from government.

We Stand! Stand with us.

In Liberty – Gavin Seim.
 gavinforliberty@gmail.com

[Greenhorn]