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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2014, 03:26:47 PM »
No surprise. So no baiting deer and due to I-594, no hunting allowed by people under 18.  :bash:

Yep, just about time to quit hunting this state altogether.
I think the WDFW is pretty intent on banning lead in the near future too. 

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2014, 03:27:28 PM »
LOL, you guys make it sound like hunting will never be the same without baiting if WDFW chooses to make some changes. I never heard of anybody baiting deer or elk 20 years ago. :dunno:

Also, you're telling me I can't choose to have any say on an issue and I should just make a decision based on how certain others feel? Get real. Yay or nay on supporting baiting,  there needs to be some modifications regardless, IN MY OPINION.

My beef with the restriction isn't the actual baiting, its that they just keep taking away options and methods of hunting while I continue to pay more and more in license, tags, fees etc each year. Strictly principle for me.

People are just sick of getting yanked around.

This is just another example of how hunting in this state is going down the drain.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2014, 03:28:20 PM »
It wouldn't be a bad thing.  People would have to actually hunt again vs. sitting on a bait pile waiting until they get hungry.

Have you sat next to corn or any other feed while shooting ducks?
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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2014, 03:28:59 PM »
What modifications can be made? It seems to me it's all or nothing. Baiting is either legal, or not, just like with bears.
Are you thinking public land versus private? Or maybe outfitters versus do it yourselfers?

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2014, 03:29:27 PM »
LOL, you guys make it sound like hunting will never be the same without baiting if WDFW chooses to make some changes. I never heard of anybody baiting deer or elk 20 years ago. :dunno:

Also, you're telling me I can't choose to have any say on an issue and I should just make a decision based on how certain others feel? Get real. Yay or nay on supporting baiting,  there needs to be some modifications regardless, IN MY OPINION.

My beef with the restriction isn't the actual baiting, its that they just keep taking away options and methods of hunting while I continue to pay more and more in license, tags, fees etc each year. Strictly principle for me.
:yeah:  They keep taking away options.  Eventually they'll find something 'important' to each and everyone.

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2014, 03:31:03 PM »
What modifications can be made? It seems to me it's all or nothing. Baiting is either legal, or not, just like with bears.
Are you thinking public land versus private? Or maybe outfitters versus do it yourselfers?
Probably muley vs whitetail/blacktail, but the others you mention too.

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2014, 03:36:38 PM »
The Facebook is to blame for some of this in my opinion. Not the Facebook specifically but social media in general. The more we are connected the more we butt into other people's business. The baiting of deer has been legal for a long long time. The fact that you never knew about it doesn't change that it was happening.

User groups didn't fight amongst each other as much 20 years ago either. I think the reason is pretty simple; most of us had no f'ing clue what the other was doing. Now we all (think) we know each other before we even meet. In most cases we never do meet. Instantly opinions are formed with very little evidence other than a profile picture or glory shot. I believe this leads to jealousy and resentment amongst our hunting community. 

I guess if baiting deer had an adverse affect on the deer themselves or another user group I would be less upset. This has NOTHING to do with any of that and everything to do with one person telling another person what they should or shouldn't do in a matter that poses no harm to them.
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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2014, 03:38:09 PM »
My way is the only way...just get used to it!!   Yep, sounds like narcissism isn't just for politicians anymore ;)  Next on the block...no shooting animals within 1/4 mile of a vehicle (insert sarcasm font). Anything that makes me feel morally superior to others, that's what the state should do.  Screw the old guys, screw the disabled, screw the youth...it's all about my value system and nothing else matters! 

Hunters turning on hunters is a load of Horse Pucky!!!  Stand strong and together or stand weak and divided.


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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2014, 03:44:59 PM »
My way is the only way...just get used to it!!   Yep, sounds like narcissism isn't just for politicians anymore ;)  Next on the block...no shooting animals within 1/4 mile of a vehicle (insert sarcasm font). Anything that makes me feel morally superior to others, that's what the state should do.  Screw the old guys, screw the disabled, screw the youth...it's all about my value system and nothing else matters! 

Hunters turning on hunters is a load of Horse Pucky!!!  Stand strong and together or stand weak and divided.


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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2014, 03:45:04 PM »
Well said Seabass.  It's a shame if they take away baiting...  I can tell you first hand that if you bait, it doesn't make it easier to kill a big mature animal. 

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2014, 03:52:16 PM »
Its sad to see hunters excited, willing or indifferent to the loss of hunting practices just because its not how they hunt.

I have never hunted over bait and almost without exception put on 5-15 miles a day when in the woods. I still want people who hunt small parcels, have limited mobility or just plain want to sit over a hay bale to have the opportunity to harvest animals legally.

If baiting deer or elk becomes illegal; are food plots going to be illegal? Is hunting near a salt lick (many of those on public land for cows)? What about man made water sources?
People get offended at nothing at all. So, speak your mind and be unapologetic.

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2014, 03:53:46 PM »
Well said Seabass.  It's a shame if they take away baiting...  I can tell you first hand that if you bait, it doesn't make it easier to kill a big mature animal.
I think those of that are HONEST and have been baiting deer for a long time would agree on that.

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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2014, 04:00:23 PM »
Well said Seabass.  It's a shame if they take away baiting...  I can tell you first hand that if you bait, it doesn't make it easier to kill a big mature animal.
I think those of that are HONEST and have been baiting deer for a long time would agree on that.

100% agree. It is the farthest thing from a slam dunk!
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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2014, 04:24:43 PM »
The Facebook is to blame for some of this in my opinion. Not the Facebook specifically but social media in general. The more we are connected the more we butt into other people's business. The baiting of deer has been legal for a long long time. The fact that you never knew about it doesn't change that it was happening.

User groups didn't fight amongst each other as much 20 years ago either. I think the reason is pretty simple; most of us had no f'ing clue what the other was doing. Now we all (think) we know each other before we even meet. In most cases we never do meet. Instantly opinions are formed with very little evidence other than a profile picture or glory shot. I believe this leads to jealousy and resentment amongst our hunting community. 

I guess if baiting deer had an adverse affect on the deer themselves or another user group I would be less upset. This has NOTHING to do with any of that and everything to do with one person telling another person what they should or shouldn't do in a matter that poses no harm to them.

Well said, and I agree 100%. The hunting in this state gets worse every year. It's really sad that we have to pay so much for the limited opportunity we get. We have ourselves to blame. Unfortunately, those of us that want to be left alone, have the quietest voice, while those that want to change every one else seems to have the loudest.
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Re: I hate to open this can again but.....
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2014, 04:28:11 PM »
be curiouse to see if it did go thru how many of the bottom dwellers on here start turning in people in search of there 10 pts?........ like others have for baiting bears.

 


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