I hate to open this can again but.....

[stinkbait]

Heck , most rivers you cant use bait either 

[stinkbait]

Now natural food source ,should be legal ,but dumping abunch of food in a pile and hunting over it ,NO, 

[WARHORSE]

Iam not going to throw out outfitters names. If you look at washington outfitters and the gmus that are open in nov it wont be hard to figure out. One even claims to "specialize" in late season mule deer.  And maybe mot all are mature....but they arnt all *censored*

[MtnMuley]

Any of you saying you have "first hand knowledge" of how baiting is detrimental to deer and elk care to elaborate?

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Yes I do have first hand knowledge.  Look up several posts I've made on the issue in previous topics. I'm not explaining them again, because it's pointless. Those who know the things I do and have witnessed this have an affect on our wild game, know.  If WDFW would make some modifications,  the whole baiting scheme wouldn't be as big of deal to many. Leaving it wide open hurts certain herds, and that's a fact.

[MtnMuley]

LOL, just look up success pics over the last several years and even a blind man can see that when you kill an abundance of mature bucks for a few years in a row, it changes the success rates on those types of deer in the following years.

[westsidehntr]

Well said Seabass.  It's a shame if they take away baiting...  I can tell you first hand that if you bait, it doesn't make it easier to kill a big mature animal.

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I gotta ask, if it isn't easier to kill a an animal.
Why do it the extra work and the expense of baiting and your odds of harvest is no better, I call BS, no one in there right mind would do it if it didn't raise their odds.

I'll be happy to see if it makes it better for the non-baiters. The animals won't be hanging around some LAH food pile.

Ah Zike strikes again on the bait bashing

You bet and and a master baiter like you is working hard defending baiting.

If it is banned it will level the playing field, between the baiters and the nonbaiters, which in MHO is good.

Since when is it a competition? What playing field are you trying to level? Can't we all just hunt and enjoy it? Does it affect your hunting if someone else has a bait pile? Or does it bother you that someone is trying to up his odds and you aren't? I don't understand?

[bobcat]

When I read the stories about the baiting that happens on the east side, I have to say I'd be in favor of banning that. But I'm not sure it's a problem here on the west side, and it's a method that allows small, private parcels to be hunted when there really is no other way. If they could somehow ban the baiting practices that are detrimental to deer or elk populations, and not ban it where it's not hurting anything, I would support that.

[MtnMuley]

Exactly bobcat.  We agree for once. A simple modification is all that's needed, but we both know that's too difficult for WDFW. It's sad, because it's going to affect many that should have the opportunity.

[kentrek]

2 major outfitters and each outfitter takes 25 deer that adds up to 50 where i come from.

Not sure how I missed that sentence.  My apologies! 

Still interested where there are outfitters that are 100% in filling 25 - 50 late season archery tags with all mature bucks.

 

[billythekidrock]

This will limit or eliminate some hunters. I think it is a crappy deal. Very selfish of others to take away an option for others.

[WARHORSE]

Yes it does effect my hunting!

[WARHORSE]

2 major outfitters and each outfitter takes 25 deer that adds up to 50 where i come from.

Not sure how I missed that sentence.  My apologies! 

Still interested where there are outfitters that are 100% in filling 25 - 50 late season archery tags with all mature bucks.

 

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Iam not going to throw out outfitters names. If you look at washington outfitters and the gmus that are open in nov it wont be hard to figure out. One even claims to "specialize" in late season mule deer.  And maybe mot all are mature....but they arnt all pisscutters
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[westsidehntr]

Yes it does effect my hunting!

To your earlier point that it's bad for deer because they won't know what to eat when the apples are gone is IMHO absurd. You think they will just starve to death because the apples are gone? No they will go back to what they ate before the apples were there. And the yearlings will learn from the older ones.

[HunterStrait]

what about salt licks?
Do they count too?

[WARHORSE]

Once the thousends of washington farm fresh apple stickers pass through there system... Maybe