I hate to open this can again but.....

[WARHORSE]

what about salt licks?
Do they count too?

Only if yer feeding a few hundreddeer a day with it!

[CoryTDF]

I HATE WDFW!!!!! That is all. Well, the idiots at the top anyway.

[h2ofowlr]

This will limit or eliminate some hunters. I think it is a crappy deal. Very selfish of others to take away an option for others.

Where you have total influence of a state resource at your hands?  What happened to free chase.  They heard up like cattle and come to the bait like a crack head looking for a fix.  One can pull most the surrounding state resources to a specific location, whether private land or an undisclosed location.  If it is private land, it maintains optimal harvest for a select few.  It makes for a very uneven playing field, if you own land and can't maintain the animals on it, enhance it.  Don't pile up the bait as it no longer is hunting it becomes harvesting.
As hunters, can you not put in the boot work, scouting, glassing the hills in order to harvest an animal?  I know many that do this and are great hunters.  The way the generations before us did.  Or is that not functional for a ground blind with a cooler in it?  It's not selfish, it's FAIR chase for a state resource plain and simple.  Due to the internet age, you just see a lot more trying it out.  I have a buddy that argues about this every time I see him.  He now has 20 nice bulls under his belt and everyone has been shot in the same location.  The salt hole is about 4' deep now.  He will give me crap for posting this, but it just goes to show what bait can do for an individual.  I usually see the bull he shoots before he shoots it thanks to his trail camera.  He knows the times they come in, etc.

[kentrek]

We are our own worst enemy, what makes a successful hunter is the ability to look within for mistakes and ways of improvement. ....not pointing fingers and blaming others for being too successful

If a method of hunting is killing too many critters in an area than wa should restrict tag numbers

[MeatMaster]

LOL, you guys make it sound like hunting will never be the same without baiting if WDFW chooses to make some changes. I never heard of anybody baiting deer or elk 20 years ago.

Also, you're telling me I can't choose to have any say on an issue and I should just make a decision based on how certain others feel? Get real. Yay or nay on supporting baiting,  there needs to be some modifications regardless, IN MY OPINION.

 

[MtnMuley]

Yes it does effect my hunting!

To your earlier point that it's bad for deer because they won't know what to eat when the apples are gone is IMHO absurd. You think they will just starve to death because the apples are gone? No they will go back to what they ate before the apples were there. And the yearlings will learn from the older ones.

Before you go poking fingers, you should research how many complaints orchardists file from deer damage during the winter. Surprisingly enough, many that have filed complaints have actually allowed hunting over apples on their property.  Isn't that calling the kettle black??

[Stalker]

Never sat over a bait site so I have no idea how productive it would be. With that said I would bet money that there are more animals that fall to the lure of artificial calls. Maybe DFW should consider banning calls. Only calling that could be done is what one could generate with their own vocal cords.... I know a few folks that can pull that off just fine. 

Gotta love hunters here in WA; we are our own worst enemy as we cannot come together on any issue of substance and take a unified stand on important matters and have a singular voice when speaking to WDFW.  Don't know how many times someone has mentioned a boycott for a couple of years and remove the $$$ we spend on licenses so our voices may once again be heard and the response is always "not me I only have so many hunting seasons and opportunities" etc.....  The whole baiting issue to me is a non-issue as I truly do not believe the impact on herds throughout the state are that dramatic or it would have been banned years a go.  I would bet that this is an issue being submitted for consideration based on a few individuals and their way is the most sporting.

The endangered species in WA is the hunter and we are to blind to see our own demise.......  Divide and conquer is alive and well..... twocents:

[WARHORSE]

Never sat over a bait site so I have no idea how productive it would be. With that said I would bet money that there are more animals that fall to the lure of artificial calls. Maybe DFW should consider banning calls. Only calling that could be done is what one could generate with their own vocal cords.... I know a few folks that can pull that off just fine. 

Gotta love hunters here in WA; we are our own worst enemy as we cannot come together on any issue of substance and take a unified stand on important matters and have a singular voice when speaking to WDFW.  Don't know how many times someone has mentioned a boycott for a couple of years and remove the $$$ we spend on licenses so our voices may once again be heard and the response is always "not me I only have so many hunting seasons and opportunities" etc.....  The whole baiting issue to me is a non-issue as I truly do not believe the impact on herds throughout the state are that dramatic or it would have been banned years a go.  I would bet that this is an issue being submitted for consideration based on a few individuals and their way is the most sporting.

The endangered species in WA is the hunter and we are to blind to see our own demise.......  Divide and conquer is alive and well..... twocents:

Yea i love hunting and dont think there will be much to hunt if baiting is allowed as if is now!

[Turner89]

Never sat over a bait site so I have no idea how productive it would be. With that said I would bet money that there are more animals that fall to the lure of artificial calls. Maybe DFW should consider banning calls. Only calling that could be done is what one could generate with their own vocal cords.... I know a few folks that can pull that off just fine. 

Gotta love hunters here in WA; we are our own worst enemy as we cannot come together on any issue of substance and take a unified stand on important matters and have a singular voice when speaking to WDFW.  Don't know how many times someone has mentioned a boycott for a couple of years and remove the $$$ we spend on licenses so our voices may once again be heard and the response is always "not me I only have so many hunting seasons and opportunities" etc.....  The whole baiting issue to me is a non-issue as I truly do not believe the impact on herds throughout the state are that dramatic or it would have been banned years a go.  I would bet that this is an issue being submitted for consideration based on a few individuals and their way is the most sporting.

The endangered species in WA is the hunter and we are to blind to see our own demise.......  Divide and conquer is alive and well..... twocents:

 

[MtnMuley]

Also, for those who don't feel that baiting is a slam dunk, you're right. In many cases it isn't.  In most cases it's a way for a hunter to hunt a different way and be able to interact with the animals that visit his/her bait via trailcam pics. That's great and more power to those who enjoy that. I love working on different ways to get animals to come in for a picture.  Every year I can kill several trophy animals during legal seasons by doing this, but i chose not to. That's just not my style. It's not wrong nor right.  I enjoy the sweating part too much and the heartache with the seasons end with an unnotched  tag.That keeps driving me back for more. What really gets to me, is when  people go to any extreme possible to fill tags, regardless of the outcome to the herd or the surroundings. Instead of being successful now and again, let's be successful every time regardless of the impact we're having........I hate that and what it stands for. Sickening when the almighty dollar means more than a passion to respect the outdoors and what it has to offer.

[mustanggt]

I've seen throughout my life that once something is taken or given away it's almost impossible to get back. Incrementalism has gotten us to where we are politically and economically. Hunting over bait may not be your cup of tea but it may be the only way some people can get out into the woods and enjoy the same thing you do, that is, hunt deer. You want to give away what may be the only way a disabled kid can enjoy what you do and that is hunt deer. We need to protect the rights and privileges that we still have and not let anyone erode them. Today may be baiting deer(unfair), tomorrow may be no tree stands or ground blinds(unfair). We've seen what banning generations long practices of hound hunting bear and mt. lion has done on ungulate populations. Coyotes were controlled the same way. Instead of getting in giant pissing contests how about we try to join forces and protect what we have and maybe get back what we've lost.

[lokidog]

I think we need to ban lead bullets, screw all of you who have it too easy using them.  Real hunters only use bows for hunting, and only bows they've made themselves.  We need to ban anything other than black powder and roundballs for muzzleloaders as well.

How stupid does that sound?  All of you "hunters" in favor of this ban need to take a deep down look at yourselves.  You are IDIOTS!  Simply one more step toward banning hunting altogether, after all the wolves can manage the wildlife just fine without us.               

[MtnMuley]

Jeez, loki, I never thought I was an "idiot" because I cared about our herd health before I cared about filling my tag. I'm sorry.

[BOWHUNTER45]

And the Indians get to use guns    Kinda crazy isn't it ? 

[Seabass]

It's just sad that this issue (like so many others) has become a debate of public opinion rather than one based on facts pertaining to the impact on the wildlife. There has been exactly ZERO biological evidence of any kind for either argument presented here.

Rules were originally intended to be used to stop harmful activities of one kind or another. Why do we insist on creating more and more rules all the time that serve no practical purpose? It's particularly ridiculous when it's a group like ours that is constantly fighting for our very existence. I thought the church was the only organization that shot their wounded. Who has the energy to fight the opposition when you have used it all simply trying to survive amongst your own?

Mark my words......more than one of you will be crying the blues and trying to garner support from this same group for something you believe to be an infringement of your rights. I hope you are confronted by the same ignorant and shallow minded crowd of thinkers I am seeing on this post.