I hate to open this can again but.....

[Houndhunter]

This will limit or eliminate some hunters. I think it is a crappy deal. Very selfish of others to take away an option for others.

Where you have total influence of a state resource at your hands?  What happened to free chase.  They heard up like cattle and come to the bait like a crack head looking for a fix.  One can pull most the surrounding state resources to a specific location, whether private land or an undisclosed location.  If it is private land, it maintains optimal harvest for a select few.  It makes for a very uneven playing field, if you own land and can't maintain the animals on it, enhance it.  Don't pile up the bait as it no longer is hunting it becomes harvesting.
As hunters, can you not put in the boot work, scouting, glassing the hills in order to harvest an animal?  I know many that do this and are great hunters.  The way the generations before us did.  Or is that not functional for a ground blind with a cooler in it?  It's not selfish, it's FAIR chase for a state resource plain and simple.  Due to the internet age, you just see a lot more trying it out.  I have a buddy that argues about this every time I see him.  He now has 20 nice bulls under his belt and everyone has been shot in the same location.  The salt hole is about 4' deep now.  He will give me crap for posting this, but it just goes to show what bait can do for an individual.  I usually see the bull he shoots before he shoots it thanks to his trail camera.  He knows the times they come in, etc.

I would be curious to know your stance on Calls and decoys for waterfowl.

Ya h2ofowlr lost all acknowledgment from me, these type of guys are a cancer to the hunting community. The dude should get over himself....

[h2ofowlr]

This will limit or eliminate some hunters. I think it is a crappy deal. Very selfish of others to take away an option for others.

Where you have total influence of a state resource at your hands?  What happened to free chase.  They heard up like cattle and come to the bait like a crack head looking for a fix.  One can pull most the surrounding state resources to a specific location, whether private land or an undisclosed location.  If it is private land, it maintains optimal harvest for a select few.  It makes for a very uneven playing field, if you own land and can't maintain the animals on it, enhance it.  Don't pile up the bait as it no longer is hunting it becomes harvesting.
As hunters, can you not put in the boot work, scouting, glassing the hills in order to harvest an animal?  I know many that do this and are great hunters.  The way the generations before us did.  Or is that not functional for a ground blind with a cooler in it?  It's not selfish, it's FAIR chase for a state resource plain and simple.  Due to the internet age, you just see a lot more trying it out.  I have a buddy that argues about this every time I see him.  He now has 20 nice bulls under his belt and everyone has been shot in the same location.  The salt hole is about 4' deep now.  He will give me crap for posting this, but it just goes to show what bait can do for an individual.  I usually see the bull he shoots before he shoots it thanks to his trail camera.  He knows the times they come in, etc.

I would be curious to know your stance on Calls and decoys for waterfowl.

Ya h2ofowlr lost all acknowledgment from me, these type of guys are a cancer to the hunting community. The dude should get over himself....

Because I have an opinion?  Interesting.  A cancer because I don't agree with it based off of what I have personally witnessed.  I spend a lot of time in the woods and hunting and because of the idiots I have ran into that I have a strong opinion about it.  Not stuck on myself, but thanks for calling me out Houndhunter.

I guess I have to ask what have you done for hunting Houndhunter?  Besides I didn't know I was a blip on your screen.  I will keep fighting for your hunting rights and sending letters and meeting with buddies higher up.  I am not going to make a case of support or against baiting outside this forum.  I just felt I would express my view, like many enjoy doing.

[DBHAWTHORNE]

No surprise of the do take it away. They try to do it every year and this year they diluted the results by giving us three options restricting baiting and one for baiting.. Pretty easy to play with the number at that point to push the agenda and remove hunter rights.

[MuleySniper]

Come in like crack addicts thats funny. Come sit in my stand all day in temps in the low teens and look at them flooding in like they are looking for crack. I sat 20' high in my stand, on public land, where I had previously had some great bucks on my trail cam. For five days I had maybe three deer come in. One little buck 90% of hunters would have smoked with their rifle, instead I watched him for 5 minutes before letting him walk since I was being selective. Didn't kill a deer that year.

Funny how hunters are their own worse enemies....

[jnevs23]

Love hearing how baiting is "lazy" hunting.  I spend my summers carrying 60#-90# bins of apples/corn/pumpkins/alfalfa/ whatever I can scavenge up and down hills, running cams and scouting trying to locate mature bucks.  The guys I know that use baiting as a hunting technique hunt harder than the vast majority of guys out there.  I also don't understand how having year round salt blocks available and supplemented food sources are detrimental to the herd.  I've put out thousands of pounds of feed and shot 2 deer over bait.  Pretty sure I've done more to help the local deer herd than hurt it

[PolarBear]

Now that is funny!

[RadSav]

What they are referring to is the late archery mule deer hunt in 209 and 215 in Nov...there is a outfitter that baits them and does well..there has been several hunting shows filmed there

Thank you for that clarification.  Surprised with a success rate like that on mature bucks I'd never heard of them.  Figured the poster must have been talking about another state.  Just wanted to better understand.  Appreciated!

[jnevs23]

Sounds like more people are jealous of some outfitter that baits, has a high success rate, has had a show or two on TV and is making a living hunting rather than a genuine concern about the herds health. 

[huntnnw]

 

[KFhunter]

WDFW needs to quit pecking away at opportunity and instead figure out how to control some predators and build the herds.

This is nothing more than another loss of opportunity, less deer in people's freezers.  WDFW is getting very good at dividing and conquering hunters.
Pit one group of hunters against another group of hunters and let them squabble like hens fighting over a piece of bacon, then use that as an excuse to peck away at various forms of hunting.

Wake up and see what's going on folks, and quit trying to peel away other hunters' opportunity because it doesn't fit your model of what hunting is.


 

[huntingbaldguy]

I've seen a few opinions that come from one side only in this thread.  I'm not a sport hunter or a trophy hunter.  I hunt to put meat in the freezer.  I don't understand why i can't use bait to do so.

[DeerHarvester]

Thers no law sayin you cant rub penut butter all over yer ba!!$ and invite yer nieghbors dog over for a snack either......but i dont see many guys jumpin up and runnin to the store for a jar of jiffy.   But if the game dept said you cant you all would prob throw a fit!

Hahahah this is a great thread.  Keep it coming boyz. 

WARHORSE can I have your autograph?  Haven't I seen you on T.V.  Also do you perfer chunky or regular Jiffy?

[DeerHarvester]

Just think about all the fire victims we could feed with the dump truck of apples being used to feed deer.   

[Jonathan_S]

Just think about all the fire victims we could feed with the dump truck of apples being used to feed deer.

Not sure if you're being serious or detracting from the actual conversation.  People bait with apples that are unfit for human consumption and alfalfa. 

Additionally, you can probably count the "dump trucks" of apples on one hand because while it's easy to single out a few outfitters, you are mainly limiting guys like this

Love hearing how baiting is "lazy" hunting.  I spend my summers carrying 60#-90# bins of apples/corn/pumpkins/alfalfa/ whatever I can scavenge up and down hills, running cams and scouting trying to locate mature bucks.  The guys I know that use baiting as a hunting technique hunt harder than the vast majority of guys out there.  I also don't understand how having year round salt blocks available and supplemented food sources are detrimental to the herd.  I've put out thousands of pounds of feed and shot 2 deer over bait.  Pretty sure I've done more to help the local deer herd than hurt it

[vandeman17]

Love hearing how baiting is "lazy" hunting.  I spend my summers carrying 60#-90# bins of apples/corn/pumpkins/alfalfa/ whatever I can scavenge up and down hills, running cams and scouting trying to locate mature bucks.  The guys I know that use baiting as a hunting technique hunt harder than the vast majority of guys out there.  I also don't understand how having year round salt blocks available and supplemented food sources are detrimental to the herd.  I've put out thousands of pounds of feed and shot 2 deer over bait.  Pretty sure I've done more to help the local deer herd than hurt it

Said I was done with this thread but I guess it's like the "crack" that we bait hunters put out and I just can't avoid it