I hate to open this can again but.....

[KFhunter]

The way I read it is a person under 18 has to be under the direct control and supervision of an adult. So, for example, I couldn't put my older daughter in a ground blind and sit in another ground blind 200 yards away with my younger daughter.

If memory serves there is (or used to be) a clause for hunting one's own property.

[PolarBear]

[pianoman9701]

The way I read it is a person under 18 has to be under the direct control and supervision of an adult. So, for example, I couldn't put my older daughter in a ground blind and sit in another ground blind 200 yards away with my younger daughter.

If memory serves there is (or used to be) a clause for hunting one's own property.

The verbiage is above. under eighteen needs no adult if they have all the correct licenses.

[Bob33]

The way I read it is a person under 18 has to be under the direct control and supervision of an adult. So, for example, I couldn't put my older daughter in a ground blind and sit in another ground blind 200 yards away with my younger daughter.

That's exemption clause "iv". Exemption clause "v" is as follows, which does not require supervision while hunting.

(v) while hunting if the hunting is legal in all places where the person to whom the firearm is transferred possesses the firearm and the person to whom the firearm is transferred has completed all training and holds all licenses or permits required for such hunting, provided that any temporary transfer allowed by this subsection is permitted only if the person to whom the firearm is transferred is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law;

[bobcat]

Thanks for clarifying that. So the only issue would be how a person under 18 could legally get from home to their hunting location.

[Bob33]

Thanks for clarifying that. So the only issue would be how a person under 18 could legally get from home to their hunting location.

That could be a sticky issue if the law is enforced literally. If taken literally, the person would need to be only in locations in which hunting is legal, at that time. For example, if you "transferred" a gun to your child and he wants to hunt near Yakima by driving over highway 410, he would drive through Mt. Rainier National Park which does not allow hunting. If you wanted to "transfer" the gun to him the day before the season started, that too would be illegal.

[idahohuntr]

Back to baiting specifically...Bob33 mentioned that those opposed to baiting may have presented more defensible arguments before WDFW; which may well be true.  I think one of the most strategic points to hammer WDFW on if they propose a complete baiting ban is that such a ban disproportionately affects the opportunities for disabled, youth, and senior hunters. 

While I would 100% support efforts to impose some common sense rules/restrictions on baiting IF the rumors are true about a complete ban, I also would not be opposed to throwing mud on a decision to ban baiting by painting WDFW as an agency that engages in discriminatory practices. 

If folks have any images of these disadvantaged user groups using this method (sitting in a blind over bait or something)...maybe start saving them to a convenient location.  IF wdfw proposes a ban, start flooding the commissioners with pictures of disabled vets, seniors, younger children etc. sitting in those hunting blinds. Maybe start asking these commissioners why they hate children, seniors, and disabled people?  If WDFW wants to make a poor decision then I see no reason to not sling mud all over them and the commissioners if they go forward with a complete ban. 

[stinkbait]

Is using scents ,non scents, also considered baiting?

[buckfvr]

That hasnt been determined, but in some states it is illegal to use anything with the intent to lure animals into a specific area.

That is one of the things I think should be negotiated, but I doubt we will be afforded any further input.

[curlewkiller]

This law is a cluster you know what!

Thanks for clarifying that. So the only issue would be how a person under 18 could legally get from home to their hunting location.

[Bob33]

Is using scents ,non scents, also considered baiting?

It is for bears in Washington.

Yes, it is "non scents".

[stinkbait]

Will they extend the hunting hours by taking away the baiting??

[PolarBear]

What, until an hour after dark? 

[elk247]

I've heard many statistics thrown around. "Hunters are only 5% of population" also "hunter generated revenue accounts for 70% of all conservation dollars in this state." If these numbers are accurate or even remotely close maybe its time to hit this state in the pocket book. I would happily take my $$ out of state to support the rights of disabled, elderly, and youth hunters. My hunting partners and family would do the same. If even 1/4 of the hunters in this state did the same i think the wdfw would feel the impact and realize they are funded by us, and reconsider holding important meetings during general seasons, limiting hunting methods, forcing increased predation down our throats, and trying to destroy ungulate herds via thousands of additional tags in a already signifactly impacted region. A boycott may be the only way to have our voice be heard. Obviously only unity amongst hunters will allow this to be accomplished.

[drk9988]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/contact.html

Make all your comments here where it might actually help..