OPPOSE ANY RESTRICTION ON BAITING - EMAIL TO WDFW

[DBHAWTHORNE]

BTKR,

Great story and exactly why we need to protect our rights.

Not to mention the retention of older or disabled hunters.

I agree...especially in a state where much of the terrain on public land is rugged.

[300rum]

I don't know if I oppose any/all restrictions on baiting?  I went by a house tonight and there were at least 20 deer and a flock of turkey eating in a guys backyard just as they are every night.  I'm not sure that's right, that just doesn't seem normal to me.

Baiting and hunting are two different things entirely, one doesn't necessarily have to do with the other.

In fact, I am pretty sure that if you bait you are probably anti-hunting, you are probably more pro-shooting, which is fine but that's not what I call "hunting".

The proliferation of game camera's is a big reason that this is coming up, that's just my opinion.

If you want to shoot a deer in a pile of corn you laid out, so be it, the Government shouldn't have anything to do with it, that is the problem.     

[DBHAWTHORNE]

I don't know if I oppose any/all restrictions on baiting?  I went by a house tonight and there were at least 20 deer and a flock of turkey eating in a guys backyard just as they are every night.  I'm not sure that's right, that just doesn't seem normal to me.

Baiting and hunting are two different things entirely, one doesn't necessarily have to do with the other.

In fact, I am pretty sure that if you bait you are probably anti-hunting, you are probably more pro-shooting, which is fine but that's not what I call "hunting".

The proliferation of game camera's is a big reason that this is coming up, that's just my opinion.

If you want to shoot a deer in a pile of corn you laid out, so be it, the Government shouldn't have anything to do with it, that is the problem.   

Similar logic: "I have walked by meadows and cuts and seen whole herds of elk out in the open. I think if you use a 300RUM you are more pro-shooting rather than hunting... after all... all that is required is walking around and glassing cuts with high powered optics and then shooting them."... That's fine but it's not what I call hunting.

[Ridgeratt]

BTKR,

Great story and exactly why we need to protect our rights.

Not to mention the retention of older or disabled hunters.

I agree...especially in a state where much of the terrain on public land is rugged.

So then since Rifle season has come to and end in 101. DB I can imagine your hauling bait "Big Time" then you wouldn't be opposed to giving a few of the Older / Disabled Hunters a few locations of your bait cribs then? It appears you are looking out for them and I'm sure they would enjoy the pointer's.

[DBHAWTHORNE]

BTKR,

Great story and exactly why we need to protect our rights.

Not to mention the retention of older or disabled hunters.

I agree...especially in a state where much of the terrain on public land is rugged.

So then since Rifle season has come to and end in 101. DB I can imagine your hauling bait "Big Time" then you wouldn't be opposed to giving a few of the Older / Disabled Hunters a few locations of you bait cribs then? It appears you are looking out for them and I'm sure they would enjoy the pointer's.

I wish I was.... I live in Germany right now and I am currently in Alabama... but make no mistake.. I will be there and I will be busting my tail in the short period of time I have to find a buck that I want to hunt.

[Skyvalhunter]

e-mail sent to oppose any restriction on baiting

[DBHAWTHORNE]

e-mail sent to oppose any restriction on baiting

Thanks Skyval

[Steve Jo]

I've had a few PM's asking me to tone down my rhetoric, specifically the use of the term 'Anti-Hunter' in relation to this topic.

To be clear: If you are seeking to restrict existing hunter rights for reasons other than sound game management principles, then you are an Anti-Hunter.

If you think that is a pejorative statement and don't like how it makes you feel then I strongly suggest you rethink your position.  This is no longer  a discussion regarding opposing positions within a hunter group.  You are now trying to restrict my hunting rights and those of my friends.  You are the enemy. 

Please wake up to this and send an email in support of hunters rights

Thanks

[Jonathan_S]

I like people who know where they stand   

[MtnMuley]

To be clear: If you are seeking to restrict existing hunter rights for reasons other than sound game management principles, then you are an Anti-Hunter.

I would say I agree with that. The term Anti-Hunter is a pretty powerful word though,  and I think there could a better choice of word.

[police women of America]

I sent my email in.

[hooker]

It's pretty easy and any simpleton  "SHOULD" understand that it's nothing more than an attack on hunting.  Just like hounds and baiting bear once they take it away it's gonna be near impossible to get back.  Then what?  Whats next?  What do hunter's give into next?  Baiting deer and elk is alot of work, a very small percentage of people do it.  Maybe they want to take,take,take, so that a couple years down the road they can sell us permits to get back what we lost.

Fight, fight,fight, to hang onto everything you can!  Unless your blind and have to much of a righteous ego....   

Go Raiders!

[oldleclercrd]

  Except for the Raiders part.

[motg9_6]

I stated this in another thread, if this passes I will no longer support wdfw!! I have expressed this to them in emails and surveys. They can only take so much and too me this will be the straw that brakes the camels back. I will spend my hard earned money in other states with better opportunity.

[KFhunter]

You will not sway your opposition by harsh and confrontational language.  Only educated and well thought out responses are going to help gain understanding of the issue at hand.
This is debate 101.  If you're using harsh rhetoric all you're doing is solidifying those who already think as you do.  You're giving out red meat and alienating anyone with a slightly different perspective.  These people can be brought to your side with some education, some can't.

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It sounds like there is one outfitter responsible for bringing this baiting issue to a head by literally dumping dump truck loads of apples and other bait in the woods, making large numbers of animals congregate in one area.   This is detrimental to a herd because it groups up the animals making predators also group up = easy pickings.    Mule deer need to be dispersed to survive predators and keep a strong genetic pool.  Unfortunately WDFW is thinking of using a sledge hammer instead of a scalpel,  banning the use of bait statewide instead of addressing this very regional and localized problem.   The average bait pile in the woods usually consists of a sack of corn or two, a salt lick sometimes flavored sometimes not and perhaps a small 1/4 bushel of apples.  This is harmless as the bait is gone in a matter of days/week leaving the salt lick.  These bait piles are as dispersed as the deer herds and temporary.  The outfitter is making giant bait piles and worse long lasting bait stations year after year, he's creating a false habitat and grouping large numbers of animals.  This needs to be addressed.