OPPOSE ANY RESTRICTION ON BAITING - EMAIL TO WDFW

[GBoyd]

Oh, I understand. The law hasn't changed yet.

[oldleclercrd]

Yeah I've been successful late season without using either one also. I've also been successful using them. It's legal to do so and I want to keep my options open. I sure hope you've NEVER used scents while hunting or that would make you a hypocrite, right?

PB doesn't like baiting but I don't think he supports restricting us from baiting.

That's good to hear if it's true.

[rim_runner]

so how would this affect using attractants to get trail cam photos and videos?

[Wazukie]

And now we need a second thread on this started by the same person even?  Can't we keep in one thread 

[billythekidrock]

And now we need a second thread on this started by the same person even?  Can't we keep in one thread 

Merged.

[BAR C3]

So if I read the other thread right it included scents?
If that's the case, they will go after calls as well based on the definition I saw. Anything baiting an animal in. If that is the case, hunting as we know it is done in this state!
Is their something specific on game site what they are specifically going after because I can't find it.

[Jonathan_S]

Might as well not have a late whitetail archery season if you're going to outlaw baiting and scents.

Many of us have done very well for many years hunting late whitetail archery using neither bait or scents.   

I wasn't inferring that it can't be done.  Similarly, if calls were illegal for hunting bulls in September, it would be doable but it would make it very hard for most people.

[bobcat]

If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.

[billythekidrock]

If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.

I bet it would include scents.
I have a feeling that this is also designed to help with enforcement of illegal bear baits.

[bobcat]

If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.

I bet it would include scents.
I have a feeling that this is also designed to help with enforcement of illegal bear baits.

Really? Why would they include scents? Many other states have banned baiting for deer and elk but I don't think any of them have also banned the use of scent.

[Jonathan_S]

If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.

I bet it would include scents.
I have a feeling that this is also designed to help with enforcement of illegal bear baits.

Really? Why would they include scents? Many other states have banned baiting for deer and elk but I don't think any of them have also banned the use of scent.

I wouldn't put it past them.  Particularly since - and it's been mentioned - that the law makers aren't ground level sportsmen who would spot the differences.  "Oh well we can just copy and past the verbiage from the bear page..."

[DBHAWTHORNE]

If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.

I'm not willing to take that chance.... Scents currently fall under their definition of bait and that is all we have to go off of.

Either way this is being handled unethically by WDFW and fellow hunters who are supporting this anti-hunting agenda. Fellow hunters  are literally voting against it because it doesn't meet their idea of the aesthetics for the hunt... it is a matter of the majority saying "the way I like to hunt" is more important than "the way you like to hunt".

They try to argue about ethics but they have failed to show an understanding of the definition of ethics. Baiting and other methods of hunting are purely an aesthetics issues not an ethics issue. If anything baiting is more ethical than many other methods of hunting because the targets are almost always standing still, at a known distance within reasonable range and more often than not these hunters are not rushed on the shot and wait for optimal shot angles (vs what I see from many other hunting methods where hunters seem to be more likely to take less than optimal shot angles....no scientific data to back that up.. just a casual observation I have made). On these grounds I would argue that baiting is an extremely ethical practice...more so than many/most other hunting methods.

[Jonathan_S]

 

Curious too how some people support bear baiting but not deer baiting.

[bobcat]

You have to remember the bear baiting law wasn't written by lawmakers or the WDFW, it was written by anti hunters.

[billythekidrock]

If they do make baiting deer and elk illegal, I doubt they will include scent. Just because that's how the law banning bear baiting was written doesn't mean it would be be the same for deer and elk.

I bet it would include scents.
I have a feeling that this is also designed to help with enforcement of illegal bear baits.

Really? Why would they include scents? Many other states have banned baiting for deer and elk but I don't think any of them have also banned the use of scent.

Sorry, hit Modify instead of Quote.

From an enforcement standpoint it would be easier to ban all baiting at the same level. Apples, COB and sweet scents are being used for bear under the guise of deer hunting. Using the same definitions for all big game eliminates this and I seriously doubt that they will have two definitions of baiting.