*"I WILL NOT Comply Rally" Dec. 13, 2014, OLYMPIA*

[hub]

I hope 200,000 show up. My sign will read. I demand background checks on recreational pot smokers for every purchase. 

[HighlandLofts]

I think my sign will say "CRIMINAL CONTROL - NOT GUN CONTROL" if they kept these law baeaking scumbags in jail and prison where they belong, there wouldn't be hardly any new crimes commited. They get caught and plea deal down to a misdermeanor and released to re-offend. The cycle never stops.

We already have laws on the books about convicted criminalsfrom buying guns. They don't buy them, they steal them or get them from the street fence. When a felon gets caught with a gun, give hime twenty years extra with no good time or parole. But the Dems don't want it that way, let them out, put them on a social program that is way over taxed & under staffed and forget about them, BUT give them their voting rights back so they can vote Democrap.

Every gun owner needs to go to this and bring a friend. Bring a cardboard sign. BE THERE ON THE 13TH!!!!!!!!!!

[wolfbait]

I think my sign will say "CRIMINAL CONTROL - NOT GUN CONTROL" if they kept these law baeaking scumbags in jail and prison where they belong, there wouldn't be hardly any new crimes commited. They get caught and plea deal down to a misdermeanor and released to re-offend. The cycle never stops.

We already have laws on the books about convicted criminalsfrom buying guns. They don't buy them, they steal them or get them from the street fence. When a felon gets caught with a gun, give hime twenty years extra with no good time or parole. But the Dems don't want it that way, let them out, put them on a social program that is way over taxed & under staffed and forget about them, BUT give them their voting rights back so they can vote Democrap.

Every gun owner needs to go to this and bring a friend. Bring a cardboard sign. BE THERE ON THE 13TH!!!!!!!!!!

We got a phone call to vote for 594, I answered the phone, the lady on the other end wanted to talk to my wife, she made it quite clear she did not want to talk to me. I finally got her to tell me what it was she wanted to talk to my wife about, She started in on why my wife should vote for 594, she said that more women and police officers would be save if this 594 was passed. I ask her if it was just women and police officers or would others be saved also? It took her a couple of seconds to come up with that perhaps others would be saved.
I ask her if she followed the news at all and she said she did, I then ask her what she thought of Chicago and all the gun violence with the strongest gun laws and what she thought happened there? She jumped right back to how women and police would be saved if 594 were passed.
Since it was her dime for the phone call we discussed "Fast and Furious" the "Sandy Hook shooting" and a few others, she got off track a few times and was agreeing with me, then she would snap back to her original intent and head off to the women and police officers being saved by 594. After a half hour I could see neither one of us was gaining any ground, so I told her that my wife would not be voting for 594, Click and she was gone.

I overheard LE talking about this 594, they said that many in WA would not enforce it, but instead look the other way, I also heard that some on the westside would enforce it to the fullest extent for political purposes.

The folks who think setting back and doing nothing because of what the mainstream media might say should be able to see how well that has worked with the wolf agenda etc. in WA. Afraid to make a statement etc. do to the fact that the environmentalists or pro-wolf crowd will get upset or use it against them in some way. Too many people sitting on their hands is probably what got us to where we are today.

[h20hunter]

ya don't let the naysayers talk you guys out of it civil disobedience is always better than nothing.

Absurd statement.

Civil disobedience will only paint the entire group in a negative light. Lots of good points already made...I won't bother repeating the obvious.

What a ridiculous statement. Grow a pair. I'm sure the folks who participated in the Boston Tea Party thought they would be perceived in a negative way. Do you think they cared, I doubt it. They knew what was right and how they could help the cause. You may think that was different times and we are lore civilized, but I promise we are not. Washington state just rolled over and gave up a big chunk of their gun rights. It is time time to be aggressive, not passive.

I applaud everyones passion. However, I'll stand by my statement. This isn't the Boston Tea Party. This isn't a revolution. This is legislation that was passed. Do I like it...nope. Do I agree with it...nope. Do I think for one second that beating my chest, making big bold look at me statements about wearing whatever colored panties or if I'm a man or not will make a lick of difference...nope again. Do I think that playing the part of a gun toting, look at me, inflamatory demonstration where the media will make exactly what they want out if will be the further downfall of even more rights...yes I do. I've said it before, not ashamed and don't mind the chest thumping that a few of our members enjoy......Open carry demonstrations and any other type of inflammatory demonstration, regardless of cause, with only be a further detriment to the cause.

One quick edit that I was thinking about......A few make statements such as "I don't care what others think" followed by whatever. Really, you should care exactly about that. Typically, in this case...."others" make up the voting majority. Yes, you of course have every right to make your opinion heard. But, do it wrong and the voting majority will hear you loud and clear.

[SCRUBS]

Time and money might be better spent organizing all of these people to pay for a Supreme Court challenge to the law. It's the most restrictive background check on the books. It may well be beatable.

 

[Bean Counter]

Yeah I don't know how you protest the voting populace. You guys should be thanking the legislature, not protesting them. They turned this measure down. I protested/voted with my dollars by packing up and moving to the United States   

[RG]

ya don't let the naysayers talk you guys out of it civil disobedience is always better than nothing.

Absurd statement.

Civil disobedience will only paint the entire group in a negative light. Lots of good points already made...I won't bother repeating the obvious.

What a ridiculous statement. Grow a pair. I'm sure the folks who participated in the Boston Tea Party thought they would be perceived in a negative way. Do you think they cared, I doubt it. They knew what was right and how they could help the cause. You may think that was different times and we are lore civilized, but I promise we are not. Washington state just rolled over and gave up a big chunk of their gun rights. It is time time to be aggressive, not passive.

I applaud everyones passion. However, I'll stand by my statement. This isn't the Boston Tea Party. This isn't a revolution. This is legislation that was passed. Do I like it...nope. Do I agree with it...nope. Do I think for one second that beating my chest, making big bold look at me statements about wearing whatever colored panties or if I'm a man or not will make a lick of difference...nope again. Do I think that playing the part of a gun toting, look at me, inflamatory demonstration where the media will make exactly what they want out if will be the further downfall of even more rights...yes I do. I've said it before, not ashamed and don't mind the chest thumping that a few of our members enjoy......Open carry demonstrations and any other type of inflammatory demonstration, regardless of cause, with only be a further detriment to the cause.

One quick edit that I was thinking about......A few make statements such as "I don't care what others think" followed by whatever. Really, you should care exactly about that. Typically, in this case...."others" make up the voting majority. Yes, you of course have every right to make your opinion heard. But, do it wrong and the voting majority will hear you loud and clear.

I agree. My panties aren't pink but I do have the ability to see the big picture.  All of this came about because more voters in Washington chose yes than no on their ballot.  If it is to be overturned then a bunch of those voters must change their mind and move to the position held by those of us who are gun owners.  The legislators in Olympia are influenced by majority opinion or special interests. The media is predominately anti gun but they are motivated by controversy, disasters, and viewer numbers.  They will spin the news to make it interesting and exciting so more people view it. The people who view it believe it because they don't think for themselves.  My point? If you wish to influence future votes don't go stomping up there like you are going to teach them all a big lesson and win over all these people who we need on our side by intimidating them. They are going to give you the high sign and laugh in your face while shaking the hand of the rich guys.  Remember what this is about. It's not a street fight it's a debate which will be won by convincing our opponents to join our side.  I agree with the rally. I don't agree with making it some big show of force. They already think the gun is compensating for a shortage somewhere else.  Make it peaceful and repeat it often. And it really is about appearance, impressions are going to be made.  Important voters will join us or leave us depending upon how they feel about us more than how they feel about our message.  They are already afraid of us or they would not have voted yes  think about it.

My opinion only obviously.

An additional thought on this...  The pro gun control people would love to have something to point to that would give them the chance to say "see, we told you they were like that, you better let us pass more laws to keep them under control".   Remember, voters didn't do the homework on 594 and won't on the next one.  They vote by how they feel and by what the TV tells them to do. 

[timberfaller]

If your "worried" about what "others" are going to broadcast, or what some are going to show up wearing,  go back and READ what the Founders said to one another when they thought it was HIGH time to take on the Crown and the British Empire!

And check out the Thread:   

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,164549.0.html

If you can't attend, or can't bring yourself to associate START calling those people!!