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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2014, 10:16:01 PM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....
« Last Edit: November 06, 2014, 10:16:57 PM by jackelope »

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2014, 10:17:26 PM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

Extirpation

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 10:28:00 PM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

Extirpation

yes, that is a better word choice...

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 10:37:42 PM »
Yes, we do need to share this wolf cancer with the whole state.  Once the whole state has a good dose of this horrendous disaster, all of us together will ask for an end to this stupidity.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 11:01:07 PM »
Why not "share the love"  :chuckle:

Seems the West Side wants to share the love, but only if it stays on the East Side.


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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 06:01:33 PM »
I wonder how many people actually believe that the USFWS and WDFW haven't already put wolves on the OP etc.?

"An Olympic Peninsula legislator, Rep. Kevin Van De Wege, D-Sequim, said he wasn’t opposed to wolves migrating onto the peninsula, but doesn’t want them relocated there."

"Migrating wolves"  :chuckle: :chuckle:




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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 06:35:47 PM »
I like how it says you can't put wolves on the wet side because they would leave the park and terrorize small towns. What did they think would happen on the east side. The east side gets screwed because they don't have the votes and political pull off the Puget sound region. Voting needs to change so county votes are compared to county votes so they get equal say in what goes on in this state. Sorry eastsiders, you have really been bent over.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 08:34:32 PM »
I like how it says you can't put wolves on the wet side because they would leave the park and terrorize small towns. What did they think would happen on the east side. The east side gets screwed because they don't have the votes and political pull off the Puget sound region. Voting needs to change so county votes are compared to county votes so they get equal say in what goes on in this state. Sorry eastsiders, you have really been bent over.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2014, 07:39:46 AM »
The westsiders are afraid to let their kids out in the backyard now, since they outlawed hunting with dogs.  Wait until they get WOLVES!  :chuckle:
« Last Edit: November 09, 2014, 09:45:25 AM by Heredoggydoggy »
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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2014, 07:54:23 AM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

This makes me sad.  We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics.  If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it.  Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality.   Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable.  The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2014, 03:51:10 PM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

This makes me sad.  We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics.  If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it.  Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality.   Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable.  The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.

Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2014, 05:43:31 PM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

This makes me sad.  We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics.  If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it.  Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality.   Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable.  The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.

Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"

Can not make that trade. We will need the hoof rot affected elk to feed the wolves. Everyone knows a pack of wolves can not...... make that "will not" eat the healthy of the herd only the young, old, lame, and weak, oh and any other ones they can catch. It is all about balance  :bash:.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2014, 05:51:54 PM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

This makes me sad.  We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics.  If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it.  Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality.   Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable.  The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.

Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"


Wow, wow, wow.  That is not a comparable arguement. Hoof rot is a natural condition.  Even better it would be surpressed by a healthy wolf population.  Don't get me wrong, I don't an uncontrolled wolf population anywhere!  But this issue won't get enough political pressure until it starts affecting the westside of the state where the majority of the voting population lives. 

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2014, 06:01:49 PM »
I wonder how many people actually believe that the USFWS and WDFW haven't already put wolves on the OP etc.?
Probably just the people who don't wear tinfoil hats  :tup:
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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2014, 06:03:56 PM »
I still see nothing wrong with a couple of closed mouth Volunteers assisting the wolves to migrate to an area where there is less predatory competition.... Canopied pickup with darkened windows over and back before it gets light in the AM
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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2014, 06:09:02 PM »
It doesn't matter if they bring them to the westside or not. The damage is beeing done as we speek. By the time we ever got to actually hunt and manage the wolves , which I'd bet won't ever happen in this liberal state its gonna be too late for are deer and elk. Hate to say that but they were killed off for a reason. Wolf hunting would be held up in court for washington till hell froze over. :twocents:

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 09:05:35 AM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

This makes me sad.  We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics.  If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it.  Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality.   Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable.  The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.

Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"

Can not make that trade. We will need the hoof rot affected elk to feed the wolves. Everyone knows a pack of wolves can not...... make that "will not" eat the healthy of the herd only the young, old, lame, and weak, oh and any other ones they can catch. It is all about balance  :bash:.

Then it should work out great. Rather than just one corner of the state negatively affected we can really slit our wrists as hunters and have elk and deer in every corner wiped out. A true end to big game hunting...expedited.

Sounds like a brilliant plan.   :bash:

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2014, 09:06:33 AM »
we dont need any wolves, i feel bad for idaho and eastern wa, there is a GOOD REASON WE HUNTED THEM TO EXTINCTION....

This makes me sad.  We on the Eastside are slways forced to deal with Westside politics.  If they say it's good for Washingtonians than all of us should suffer from it.  Because us Eastsiders can't change or over power the Westside mentality.   Heck - we should just start trapping them and trucking them over to Olympic peninsula and tiger mountain to extradite the inevitable.  The sooner the get there the sooner things will change.

Let's make it a fair swap. Want some hoof rot for your elk "herds?"


Wow, wow, wow.  That is not a comparable arguement. Hoof rot is a natural condition.  Even better it would be surpressed by a healthy wolf population.  Don't get me wrong, I don't an uncontrolled wolf population anywhere!  But this issue won't get enough political pressure until it starts affecting the westside of the state where the majority of the voting population lives.

Not according to several people in the areas it is occurring.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 09:11:50 AM »
I wonder how many people actually believe that the USFWS and WDFW haven't already put wolves on the OP etc.?

"An Olympic Peninsula legislator, Rep. Kevin Van De Wege, D-Sequim, said he wasn’t opposed to wolves migrating onto the peninsula, but doesn’t want them relocated there."

"Migrating wolves"  :chuckle: :chuckle:
What's the difference if they migrate on their own or in the back of a truck. They are still migrating.  :chuckle:
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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2014, 09:34:24 AM »
 What does this do for the possibility of de-listing?  If you don't get enough breeding pairs throughout the entire state, it's my understanding they can not be delisted, never hunted.
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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2014, 09:43:04 AM »
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2014, 10:20:37 AM »
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember

Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2014, 10:26:58 AM »
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember

Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.

Didnt the family win a large settlement from the state as a result of the hikers death from goat? Usually the state getting sued leads to policy change and freedoms being taken away from the rest of us.


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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2014, 10:36:26 AM »
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember

Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.

Didnt the family win a large settlement from the state as a result of the hikers death from goat? Usually the state getting sued leads to policy change and freedoms being taken away from the rest of us.

They did and the case was dismissed.

One of the crazier lawsuits I've seen in a while, mainly because I'm sorry, if you walk into the wild there are things that can hurt you. Come prepared and accept some personal responsibility.

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Re: Once studied closely, moving wolves to Olympic Peninsula unlikely now
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2014, 10:49:04 AM »
I wish I could remember where I saw it but...I just read something about introducing wolves to the Olympic peninsula as a way to control some animals population. There were 3 options as a means to control this species and one option was the introduction of wolves. Maybe it was a WDFW e-mail. ...sheep, goats....cant remember

Probably mountain goats. Despite a hiker getting himself gored to death by one a few years back (btw, that means mountain goats have wolves beat for fatalities in the lower 48) the enviro's are fighting attempts to eliminate them.

Didnt the family win a large settlement from the state as a result of the hikers death from goat? Usually the state getting sued leads to policy change and freedoms being taken away from the rest of us.

They did and the case was dismissed.

One of the crazier lawsuits I've seen in a while, mainly because I'm sorry, if you walk into the wild there are things that can hurt you. Come prepared and accept some personal responsibility.
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