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NW lightweight deer rifle.

260 Rem
15 (15%)
7-08 Rem
28 (28%)
243
20 (20%)
308 Win
33 (33%)
338 Fed
4 (4%)

Total Members Voted: 100

Voting closed: November 15, 2014, 04:58:44 PM

Author Topic: Perfect deer cartridges war.  (Read 31741 times)

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2014, 08:32:55 AM »
Interesting that all the choices are based off of a 308 case.

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2014, 08:50:03 AM »
.250-3000 Savage
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2014, 04:24:22 PM »
1000 lbs is not necessary for deer.   how many ft/lbs do ya spose an arrow has.  They kill deer,elk, bear.  Personally only one deer I killed out of 8 was farther than 40 yards, the one was at 200. Used my 243. Win. DRT!
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2014, 05:28:14 PM »
30-06 165 gr. noslers.
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2014, 05:49:09 PM »
This is just my opinion, but none of the options are great for a deer cartridge. Or maybe it would be better worded to say there are much better options out there than the ones listed. I like to have at least a 1000 pounds of energy on deer, you can get away with less but I don't feel its ideal. That limits the .243 to about 300 yards, and the .260, 7-08, and .308 to about 500 yards. The .338 Fed carries a bit more energy than the others, but isn't much for a flat shooting gun.

There are many cartridges that I feel would be great. A few of them are any of the 270's, .264 win mag, .280 (preferably AI), 7mm rem. mag (along with several other 7's). These guns will reach out to 600 plus yards when necessary. There have been times when my only option for a shot has been at these longer distances, and I sure am glad I had a gun that could do it.
foot pounds of energy have zero effect on how a cartridge performs on game
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2014, 06:10:24 PM »
I vote 270 win. Thanks for fixing the title it was driving me nucking futs.

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2014, 06:12:58 PM »
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2014, 06:23:18 PM »
The ONLY truly perfect deer cartridge is a 7MM Rem Mag Hornady Superformance with the 162 gr SST.

Fortunately, it's also THE perfect elk cartridge.

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2014, 06:34:02 PM »
1000 lbs is not necessary for deer.   how many ft/lbs do ya spose an arrow has.  They kill deer,elk, bear. 

Apples and oranges. A bullet kills by causing damage to the tissue of the animal. An arrow kills by cutting through an animal causing blood loss. 
  yet they still get the job done.  My point was simply proving you don't need 1000ft/lbs.  Either one will put a hole in one side and hopefully out the other.
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2014, 06:46:48 PM »
This is just my opinion, but none of the options are great for a deer cartridge. Or maybe it would be better worded to say there are much better options out there than the ones listed. I like to have at least a 1000 pounds of energy on deer, you can get away with less but I don't feel its ideal. That limits the .243 to about 300 yards, and the .260, 7-08, and .308 to about 500 yards. The .338 Fed carries a bit more energy than the others, but isn't much for a flat shooting gun.

There are many cartridges that I feel would be great. A few of them are any of the 270's, .264 win mag, .280 (preferably AI), 7mm rem. mag (along with several other 7's). These guns will reach out to 600 plus yards when necessary. There have been times when my only option for a shot has been at these longer distances, and I sure am glad I had a gun that could do it.
foot pounds of energy have zero effect on how a cartridge performs on game

This is absolutely false. Bullets need a certain amount of energy to do what they are designed to do at impact. Each bullet has a range of energy where it preforms the best. The bullets that are designed to preform at low amounts of energy usually do not preform well at close range when energy is still high. I believe the best bullet is one that will preform well at close ranges and shot out of a gun that will carry enough energy that the bullet will still preform well as long as possible.
lol might wanna check your facts
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2014, 06:48:41 PM »
I have a 26 Nosler on the way, we'll see.

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2014, 06:49:59 PM »
 :yeah: :drool:
Nice gun but but $$$.

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2014, 06:51:16 PM »
I have a 26 Nosler on the way, we'll see.
very interesting round please keep us posted
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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2014, 06:59:01 PM »
I have a 26 Nosler on the way, we'll see.
I've been hunting with a 1980 Mod.700 280 I figured it was time to add a little horse power, as for cost I plan to reload and the cost of Nosler brass is not bad for that round and is cheaper than some other calibers.

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Re: Perfect deer cartridges war.
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2014, 07:06:52 PM »
This is just my opinion, but none of the options are great for a deer cartridge. Or maybe it would be better worded to say there are much better options out there than the ones listed. I like to have at least a 1000 pounds of energy on deer, you can get away with less but I don't feel its ideal. That limits the .243 to about 300 yards, and the .260, 7-08, and .308 to about 500 yards. The .338 Fed carries a bit more energy than the others, but isn't much for a flat shooting gun.

There are many cartridges that I feel would be great. A few of them are any of the 270's, .264 win mag, .280 (preferably AI), 7mm rem. mag (along with several other 7's). These guns will reach out to 600 plus yards when necessary. There have been times when my only option for a shot has been at these longer distances, and I sure am glad I had a gun that could do it.
foot pounds of energy have zero effect on how a cartridge performs on game

This is absolutely false. Bullets need a certain amount of energy to do what they are designed to do at impact. Each bullet has a range of energy where it preforms the best. The bullets that are designed to preform at low amounts of energy usually do not preform well at close range when energy is still high. I believe the best bullet is one that will preform well at close ranges and shot out of a gun that will carry enough energy that the bullet will still preform well as long as possible.
lol might wanna check your facts

If you have some evidence that shows something that goes against many decades of conventional wisdom I would be very interested in seeing it. You truly are the first person I have ever heard say energy has zero effect on how a cartridge performs on game.
the foot pounds of energy farce is just propaganda generated by the ammunition companies to sell ammo
nuke the gray whales for jesus!

 


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