$15,000 reward offered in Washington wolf shooting case

[pianoman9701]

After the experiences of both MT and ID, the scope of WA's plan is so ridiculous as to be absurd. Trusting the WDFW to "play this out" is the last thing we should be doing.

Many of us have been involved with this issue from the start and have put great effort, and still are, into letting the WDFW know what we think about it. For you to say "all talk and no action", means that your head is in the dark places. The action started years ago and continues today. Just because you just jumped off the turnip truck on this issue doesn't mean it's the same for the rest of us.

[AspenBud]

After the experiences of both MT and ID, the scope of WA's plan is so ridiculous as to be absurd. Trusting the WDFW to "play this out" is the last thing we should be doing.

Many of us have been involved with this issue from the start and have put great effort, and still are, into letting the WDFW know what we think about it. For you to say "all talk and no action", means that your head is in the dark places. The action started years ago and continues today. Just because you just jumped off the turnip truck on this issue doesn't mean it's the same for the rest of us.

Mark my words, even if you get WDFW turned around on the issue you still have the bigger problem of the voters. Something has to be done to keep wildlife management out of the hands of voters. All it will take is one well worded, and funded, initiative.

[bearpaw]

For all the time all of you spend on here arguing about wolves; you could have banned together, come to a mutual understanding, and potentially made an impact on the wolf issue. Arguing and passive aggressively throwing insults out to each other has accomplished nothing. Control the controllable.

Ask yourself....

What can I (we) do to make the impact you so desire?

If it is completely eradicating wolves, then go for it. If you think all wolves should be captured and painted hunter orange; then go for that too. Just saying...all this talk, but no action.

perhaps you don't know how much time some of us have put into writing letters, informing the public, and testifying, what have you done, just sayin... 

I have done nothing. I have no reason to. At this point I am satisfied with the wolf plan, and would like to see how things play out. I will let the WSDFW manage the wolves, and trust that they know what they are doing. If at some point I think the plan is flawed or a failure; then I will get involved.

Based off what I have read on Hunt Wa; even if I wanted change, it would not happen. They are going to do what they want to do, and we are forced to live with it.

IMO- They should have never reintroduced wolves back into the western states, but there is no way to stop it.

Point is that you were hardly in a position to say that none of us have not done anything outside the forum. 

[pianoman9701]

After the experiences of both MT and ID, the scope of WA's plan is so ridiculous as to be absurd. Trusting the WDFW to "play this out" is the last thing we should be doing.

Many of us have been involved with this issue from the start and have put great effort, and still are, into letting the WDFW know what we think about it. For you to say "all talk and no action", means that your head is in the dark places. The action started years ago and continues today. Just because you just jumped off the turnip truck on this issue doesn't mean it's the same for the rest of us.

Mark my words, even if you get WDFW turned around on the issue you still have the bigger problem of the voters. Something has to be done to keep wildlife management out of the hands of voters. All it will take is one well worded, and funded, initiative.

And many of us have said this all along. Especially with the ties the WDFW made with groups like CNW and the Defenders in the development and passing of this outrageous plan, management won't come without stiff resistance. The reaction of those groups will be that of a woman scorned.

[GameHunter1959]

For all the time all of you spend on here arguing about wolves; you could have banned together, come to a mutual understanding, and potentially made an impact on the wolf issue. Arguing and passive aggressively throwing insults out to each other has accomplished nothing. Control the controllable.

Ask yourself....

What can I (we) do to make the impact you so desire?

If it is completely eradicating wolves, then go for it. If you think all wolves should be captured and painted hunter orange; then go for that too. Just saying...all this talk, but no action.

perhaps you don't know how much time some of us have put into writing letters, informing the public, and testifying, what have you done, just sayin... 

I have done nothing. I have no reason to. At this point I am satisfied with the wolf plan, and would like to see how things play out. I will let the WSDFW manage the wolves, and trust that they know what they are doing. If at some point I think the plan is flawed or a failure; then I will get involved.

Based off what I have read on Hunt Wa; even if I wanted change, it would not happen. They are going to do what they want to do, and we are forced to live with it.

IMO- They should have never reintroduced wolves back into the western states, but there is no way to stop it.

Point is that you were hardly in a position to say that none of us have not done anything outside the forum. 

I never said they are doing "nothing". Just making the point that the same group of individuals are on Hunt Wa daily complaining about the wolf plan, etc. They could be using that time to work on their wolf issues outside of the forum. And i am aware of many of the forum members work outside of the forum (including yours Dale).

Unfortunately lots more work is needed to accomplish your goals. Now get to work...

You have my support! Hopefully we can all hunt these predators sooner than later.

[pianoman9701]

For all the time all of you spend on here arguing about wolves; you could have banned together, come to a mutual understanding, and potentially made an impact on the wolf issue. Arguing and passive aggressively throwing insults out to each other has accomplished nothing. Control the controllable.

Ask yourself....

What can I (we) do to make the impact you so desire?

If it is completely eradicating wolves, then go for it. If you think all wolves should be captured and painted hunter orange; then go for that too. Just saying...all this talk, but no action.

perhaps you don't know how much time some of us have put into writing letters, informing the public, and testifying, what have you done, just sayin... 

I have done nothing. I have no reason to. At this point I am satisfied with the wolf plan, and would like to see how things play out. I will let the WSDFW manage the wolves, and trust that they know what they are doing. If at some point I think the plan is flawed or a failure; then I will get involved.

Based off what I have read on Hunt Wa; even if I wanted change, it would not happen. They are going to do what they want to do, and we are forced to live with it.

IMO- They should have never reintroduced wolves back into the western states, but there is no way to stop it.

Point is that you were hardly in a position to say that none of us have not done anything outside the forum. 

I never said they are doing "nothing". Just making the point that the same group of individuals are on Hunt Wa daily complaining about the wolf plan, etc. They could be using that time to work on their wolf issues outside of the forum. And i am aware of many of the forum members work outside of the forum (including yours Dale).

Unfortunately lots more work is needed to accomplish your goals. Now get to work...

And thank you for your support!

So being active on this forum and doing real work on the wolf issue are mutually exclusive? How would you know? You admittedly have done nothing to actively oppose the outrageous wolf plan. Many of us have attended meetings, written letters, gone to hearings, met with our legislators, all the while being members of this forum. In fact, being a member of this forum got me involved in the wolf issue to begin with. Your statements are still coming out of the dark end of your anatomy. You're commenting on something about which you know very little.

[GameHunter1959]

For all the time all of you spend on here arguing about wolves; you could have banned together, come to a mutual understanding, and potentially made an impact on the wolf issue. Arguing and passive aggressively throwing insults out to each other has accomplished nothing. Control the controllable.

Ask yourself....

What can I (we) do to make the impact you so desire?

If it is completely eradicating wolves, then go for it. If you think all wolves should be captured and painted hunter orange; then go for that too. Just saying...all this talk, but no action.

perhaps you don't know how much time some of us have put into writing letters, informing the public, and testifying, what have you done, just sayin... 

I have done nothing. I have no reason to. At this point I am satisfied with the wolf plan, and would like to see how things play out. I will let the WSDFW manage the wolves, and trust that they know what they are doing. If at some point I think the plan is flawed or a failure; then I will get involved.

Based off what I have read on Hunt Wa; even if I wanted change, it would not happen. They are going to do what they want to do, and we are forced to live with it.

IMO- They should have never reintroduced wolves back into the western states, but there is no way to stop it.

Point is that you were hardly in a position to say that none of us have not done anything outside the forum. 

I never said they are doing "nothing". Just making the point that the same group of individuals are on Hunt Wa daily complaining about the wolf plan, etc. They could be using that time to work on their wolf issues outside of the forum. And i am aware of many of the forum members work outside of the forum (including yours Dale).

Unfortunately lots more work is needed to accomplish your goals. Now get to work...

And thank you for your support!

So being active on this forum and doing real work on the wolf issue are mutually exclusive? How would you know? You admittedly have done nothing to actively oppose the outrageous wolf plan. Many of us have attended meetings, written letters, gone to hearings, met with our legislators, all the while being members of this forum. In fact, being a member of this forum got me involved in the wolf issue to begin with. Your statements are still coming out of the dark end of your anatomy. You're commenting on something about which you know very little.

I know plenty and I have attended meetings to learn. I just choose to not engage in arguments about the wolf issue.

Unlike you; I'm not opposed to the wolf plan...yet. Why would I try and change something if I'm not opposed to it...yet?
Perhaps my position will change in the future. Time will tell..

[GameHunter1959]

And to be fair. You claim I know nothing. But your not a Biologist, nor do you work for the WSDFW; therefore you likely have minimal knowledge compared to them and the people they relay on outside of the agency. I think that is a fair statement. So please don't turn this into a mud slinging match. Thank you in advance and I respect yours and Dales opinions.

[pianoman9701]

Your statement was that the people on this forum posting daily did nothing but talk. That was the mud slinging and you threw it. Your statement was not only ignorant, it was wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you agree with the outrageous wolf plan or disagree with the outrageous wolf plan. It has to do with you making inaccurate assessment about the work of people you know nothing about. I could care less whether you support the plan. I do care that you make statements like you did when I know form personal experience that there are a great many people of action on this forum, Dale being one.

[GameHunter1959]

Your statement was that the people on this forum posting daily did nothing but talk. That was the mud slinging and you threw it. Your statement was not only ignorant, it was wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you agree with the outrageous wolf plan or disagree with the outrageous wolf plan. It has to do with you making inaccurate assessment about the work of people you know nothing about. I could care less whether you support the plan. I do care that you make statements like you did when I know form personal experience that there are a great many people of action on this forum, Dale being one.

I did not read your long winded rant above. I'm guessing your probably insulting me to try and win an argument. I believe insulting a fellow Hunt Wa member is against forum rules, and grounds to be banned. This is a family site. Please keep it clean. I gotta go work now. Take care buddy!

[Bango skank]

Your statement was that the people on this forum posting daily did nothing but talk. That was the mud slinging and you threw it. Your statement was not only ignorant, it was wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you agree with the outrageous wolf plan or disagree with the outrageous wolf plan. It has to do with you making inaccurate assessment about the work of people you know nothing about. I could care less whether you support the plan. I do care that you make statements like you did when I know form personal experience that there are a great many people of action on this forum, Dale being one.

I did not read your long winded rant above. I'm guessing your probably insulting me to try and win an argument. I believe insulting a fellow Hunt Wa member is against forum rules, and grounds to be banned. This is a family site. Please keep it clean. I gotta go work now. Take care buddy!

Every time somebody disagrees with you you threaten to ban them.  Makes you look like a tool.  Quit puffing your chest out.

[Special T]

Gamehunter likely isnt concerned with the wolf plan because it  affecting him much. His view represent that of many hunters unfortunatly.... So spreading information about wolves and thier HISTORY in other states IS doing work on the wolf subject... Everythime we convince another sportman to band together and send a lette we are increasing our voice.

WDFW has often said that they do what they think is best because hunters do not give a clear voice.  When as a result of discussion here and elsewhere the 3 big archery organisations came out against the wolf plan it made a statement, even if ignored.

[GameHunter1959]

Your statement was that the people on this forum posting daily did nothing but talk. That was the mud slinging and you threw it. Your statement was not only ignorant, it was wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you agree with the outrageous wolf plan or disagree with the outrageous wolf plan. It has to do with you making inaccurate assessment about the work of people you know nothing about. I could care less whether you support the plan. I do care that you make statements like you did when I know form personal experience that there are a great many people of action on this forum, Dale being one.

I did not read your long winded rant above. I'm guessing your probably insulting me to try and win an argument. I believe insulting a fellow Hunt Wa member is against forum rules, and grounds to be banned. This is a family site. Please keep it clean. I gotta go work now. Take care buddy!

Every time somebody disagrees with you you threaten to ban them.  Makes you look like a tool.  Quit puffing your chest out.

Naw.. Just when personal attacks start flying. I care about the integrity of Hunt Wa. Others read this (including children). We need to be setting a positive example, and understand we can make our points (arguments) without attacking each other personally. There are great people on here, who work hard to keep it clean. I consider myself one of them. Thank you for your understanding and enjoy the rest of your week.

[mfswallace]

Your statement was that the people on this forum posting daily did nothing but talk. That was the mud slinging and you threw it. Your statement was not only ignorant, it was wrong. This has nothing to do with whether you agree with the outrageous wolf plan or disagree with the outrageous wolf plan. It has to do with you making inaccurate assessment about the work of people you know nothing about. I could care less whether you support the plan. I do care that you make statements like you did when I know form personal experience that there are a great many people of action on this forum, Dale being one.

I did not read your long winded rant above. I'm guessing your probably insulting me to try and win an argument. I believe insulting a fellow Hunt Wa member is against forum rules, and grounds to be banned. This is a family site. Please keep it clean. I gotta go work now. Take care buddy!

Every time somebody disagrees with you you threaten to ban them.  Makes you look like a tool.  Quit puffing your chest out.

Naw.. Just when personal attacks start flying. I care about the integrity of Hunt Wa. Others read this (including children). We need to be setting a positive example, and understand we can make our points (arguments) without attacking each other personally. There are great people on here, who work hard to keep it clean. I consider myself one of them. Thank you for your understanding and enjoy the rest of your week.

Seems that you can dish it out but immediately cry foul if it gets thrown back at ya 

[The100Road]

how do they come up with $15,000 for a wolf but only a $5,000 reward for 2 big horn sheep?