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Offline hunterhmg

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New scope help.
« on: November 25, 2014, 07:21:12 PM »
I have a .300 WSM Browning A bolt.
Handloaded bullets and a Simmons 4.5 to 14x.
There is nothing I have shot at that has not fallen in its tracks and hit exactly where I wanted.
The scope has too small of a field of view when the magnification is turned up for longer shots for me.
I was would like to maximize the potential of this firearm as it has a custom stock and has been reworked.
It shoots 5 round groups under 1".
Any help on what has worked best on a similar weapon for you would help a lot.
I have never owned a nice scope as we always just got weavers.
Thank you for any help you can give.

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 07:28:56 PM »
What's your budget?
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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 07:35:31 PM »
Willing to do whatever it takes to have quality glass.

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2014, 07:40:44 PM »
I have several vortex scopes and have been very impressed with then and the customer service.  Had bought the diamondback 3x9 and although it had a great field of view and great glass the eye relief was horrible for me vortex let me send it in for a crossfire 4x12 and the included a sunshield and caps.   Both of my crossfires have held up great to magnum calibers.   If I had the money I would only upgrade to the viper hd

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2014, 07:40:58 PM »
"There is nothing I have shot at that has not fallen in its tracks and hit exactly where I wanted.

It shoots 5 round groups under 1."

You don't need a new scope.
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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2014, 07:41:57 PM »
Willing to do whatever it takes to have quality glass.
You apparently have not priced rifle optics, lately.   :chuckle:
What's your goal? Long range? Want to hit a specific hair?
« Last Edit: November 25, 2014, 07:49:24 PM by Hilltop123 »

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2014, 07:47:09 PM »
Leupold VX 3 4.5-14 x50 mm w/ CDS dial
That's what I put on my new 26 Nosler and I am very happy with it  :twocents:
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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 07:51:15 PM »
Would like to shoot out farther than the 300yds that i feel comfortable with now.
Would like to be able to hold on and not guess hold over.
Yes the rifle shoots great I just hate this scope. When trying to aquire a target that is moving if the magnification is
up is very difficult.
I have looked at the Burris Eliminator and on its highest magnification it has a very large field of view.
I ask this question and give feedback. Yes it shoots good as I took my time with a handload.
I have been loading for more years than I care to tell. I just have never owned a magnum like this where I can reach out.
A 30.06 was all I hunted with as a modern firearm.


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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 07:57:06 PM »
Elk, Thank you for taking me serious. I have a friend who happens to be a dealer for them.
I did not want to just take his word for it I needed help from someone like yourself
who has a magnum.
As i stated I have never had a rifle capable of what this is.
Thank you very much for taking your time.
I do not have to replace the scope today but needed to know what to save.
My primary focus now is on Cougar.
Hunt hard and may sucess be yours.

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2014, 08:03:51 PM »
Not that anyone, was taking you as a less than serious. But you have less than 5 post, on this forum. Anyone that has shot for any amount of time, knows it's not the optics, but the shooter. As Clint Eastwood once said, "a man has to know his limitations"

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2014, 08:10:41 PM »
Only way to really get a wider field of view at higher power is with a larger Objective.  Combined with the CDS type dial I think Elkaholic about nailed it.  Doesn't sound like you need more at the distances you will probably be shooting.  NightForce is amazing, but IMO unnecessary as a hunting scope.  Put the money you save into some great boots and a pack ;)
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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2014, 08:18:57 PM »
If your in the market for a scope with turrets make sure you get a scope that is a first focal plane scope.

You can find some really decent scopes in the $1000 to $1400 range that are first focal plane.

If you don't know what a firstt focal plane scope is give Google a shot or read this blog below gives some good info on the advantages of FFP over SFP (second focal plane) scopes
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/07/01/tactical-scopes-field-test-overview-rifle-scope-line-up/
or
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS443US443&biw=1366&bih=565&q=difference+between+first+focal+plane+and+second+focal+plane&revid=1378901215&sa=X&ei=H1R1VNL8AdbtoASp8oCABw&ved=0CIUBENUCKAI
« Last Edit: November 25, 2014, 08:34:22 PM by Jason »

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2014, 08:36:08 PM »
Leupold VX 3 4.5-14 x50 mm w/ CDS dial
That's what I put on my new 26 Nosler and I am very happy with it  :twocents:
:yeah:

The only real thing I would change is to go with the VX 3L model. I'm a big fan of having the scopes mounted as low as possible on my hunting guns. If you go with the VX 3L series you can get a 56mm objective and still keep it mounted low on the rifle.

The other way to improve field of view without going to a larger objective is to reduce magnification. With a little practice it's amazing how far a scope with a top end around 10x will perform. A deer looks pretty big at 400 yards even at 8x if you're used to practicing on MOA sized targets. :twocents:

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2014, 08:45:15 PM »
I'm a fan of Leupolds, I upgraded from a VX-3 3-9 to a VX-6 3-18 CDS on my 30-06 and love it. Now I want another for my .338 It is the best of both worlds 3X for quick & close in the brush but up to 18X to make up for my aging eyes at those long distances, and the CDS dial to take some of the guess work out. A little hard on the wallet but "buy cheap, buy twice".

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Re: New scope help.
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2014, 08:50:15 PM »
Only way to really get a wider field of view at higher power is with a larger Objective.  Combined with the CDS type dial I think Elkaholic about nailed it.  Doesn't sound like you need more at the distances you will probably be shooting.  NightForce is amazing, but IMO unnecessary as a hunting scope.  Put the money you save into some great boots and a pack ;)
A larger objective increases brightness but not field of view.
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