So last turkey season I used a Red Dot site on my shot gun. I went out on a quick duck hunt before our thanksgiving dinner today and tried wing shooting w/the red dot site on my gun. I love it. I only had two ducks to shoot today, first one landed in the decoys and started down river. I stood up it flew, fallowed it w/the dot, bang, it dropped at 35yds or so w/a 2 ¾” 1/8 oz #4’s. Later another one did the same, dropped it almost in the same spot on the river. These were singles today; I hope it is just as good on doubles and triples. BTW, last season I noticed I was missing a lot of birds and the ones I hit were all shot up. I have always shot 3” after steel came along. I got 3 boxes of 2 ¾” #4’s for Christmas years ago and never used them. Steel shoots real tight. I use an improved cylinder choke. I figured the 3” didn’t open up as soon and with the speed I was missing and the shot up ones were solid hits. So last year I shot a triple over decoys on the first round of ducks and another triple on a jump shoot that day w/2 ¾ #4’s. The last shots on the jump shoot were 35 to 40 yds, the ducks dropped dead.