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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2014, 10:33:12 AM »
You must have talked to the Kittitas county prosecutor or Todd ??

Just going off what you told us, which doesn't seem correct.

When you post incorrect hearsay, don't be upset when it's not true

I told you a licensed firearms dealer, Sure Shot Guns and Pawn in Kittitas, told me "I have 2 letters here, 1 from the state and 1 from atf that say I-594 is in litigation and firearm sales by private individuals don't need a background check at this time." Why he would lie and miss out on an easy $35 I couldn't begin to speculate.

You interjected that it was the prosecutor not state or atf who would make the call not to enforce so your not going off what I said are you?

Like I said previously, I'm good and won't be upset :chuckle: with what I was told and if I make a firearms purchase through private sale I won't look to pay extra fees if not necessary. You do what makes you comfortable  :tup:

Maybe some of the licensed dealers on this site could way in if they have any knowledge one way or the other?

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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2014, 12:37:13 PM »
You must have talked to the Kittitas county prosecutor or Todd ??

Just going off what you told us, which doesn't seem correct.

When you post incorrect hearsay, don't be upset when it's not true

I told you a licensed firearms dealer, Sure Shot Guns and Pawn in Kittitas, told me "I have 2 letters here, 1 from the state and 1 from atf that say I-594 is in litigation and firearm sales by private individuals don't need a background check at this time." Why he would lie and miss out on an easy $35 I couldn't begin to speculate.

You interjected that it was the prosecutor not state or atf who would make the call not to enforce so your not going off what I said are you?

Like I said previously, I'm good and won't be upset :chuckle: with what I was told and if I make a firearms purchase through private sale I won't look to pay extra fees if not necessary. You do what makes you comfortable  :tup:

Maybe some of the licensed dealers on this site could way in if they have any knowledge one way or the other?

Seems weird that none of the knowledgeable sources on this board have heard about this litigation, that we must use a pawn shop as our source.

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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2014, 12:55:08 PM »
You must have talked to the Kittitas county prosecutor or Todd ??

Just going off what you told us, which doesn't seem correct.

When you post incorrect hearsay, don't be upset when it's not true

I told you a licensed firearms dealer, Sure Shot Guns and Pawn in Kittitas, told me "I have 2 letters here, 1 from the state and 1 from atf that say I-594 is in litigation and firearm sales by private individuals don't need a background check at this time." Why he would lie and miss out on an easy $35 I couldn't begin to speculate.

You interjected that it was the prosecutor not state or atf who would make the call not to enforce so your not going off what I said are you?

Like I said previously, I'm good and won't be upset :chuckle: with what I was told and if I make a firearms purchase through private sale I won't look to pay extra fees if not necessary. You do what makes you comfortable  :tup:

Maybe some of the licensed dealers on this site could way in if they have any knowledge one way or the other?

Seems weird that none of the knowledgeable sources on this board have heard about this litigation, that we must use a pawn shop as our source.

Mouse in your pocket or do you always speak for others   :chuckle:  You don't have to do anything as I have stated repeatedly now  :o

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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2014, 01:42:52 PM »
You must have talked to the Kittitas county prosecutor or Todd ??

Just going off what you told us, which doesn't seem correct.

When you post  hearsay, don't be upset when it's veracity is questioned.

A friend and gun shop owner has not recieved anything indicating this.
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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2014, 03:02:39 PM »
You must have talked to the Kittitas county prosecutor or Todd ??

Just going off what you told us, which doesn't seem correct.

When you post  hearsay, don't be upset when it's veracity is questioned.

A friend and gun shop owner has not recieved anything indicating this.
 :dunno:

Thanks for input jackelope.

  I just contacted Millards Gun Sales in Moses Lake and was told private sales don't need an ffl background check yet. He referenced the state/Olympia not having produced and distributed required paperwork ffl dealers would need...

2 other gun shops say yes you need to have background checks done now.

Kittitas County Sheriffs office said -summation- "the initiative took effect Dec. 4th but paperwork and all legalities weren't finalized. The required background check for private sales starts Jan 1..."

I am only passing on what I have been told, how you(especially knocker) handle your sales is for you to decide.  I have been quoted anywhere from $25 to $40 dollars for background check.

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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2014, 07:32:09 PM »
I wanted to add one more thing to my list. It appears that the DOL is sharing CPL holders information with BC Canada. When border Guards are pressing people what kind of guns do they own. It is reasonable to assume that the BC border cops are reporting back to Wa State what you declare. Be vauge Shotgun, deer rifle, or just refuse to answer.
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Re: I-594 known & unknowns
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2014, 02:29:34 AM »

DOL sharing CPL holders information with BC is probably part of the enhanced DL system dove tailing with BC's high tech facial/image recognition system. The use of "pixie dust" or smart dust (intelligent surveillance sensors) the size of a grain of sand juiced them up years back.
http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=3011 Advised conversations of it in use (under development) 10 years ago.
 Figure it would only get worse.. more hi tech toys to surveil regular folks daily lives tracking everyone everywhere, full bio's available with one click of the mouse.


Back to the 594 debacle..
Some of SAF's Points of contention-

Delivery of a firearm to a common carrier, such as FedEx, for shipping
Delivery of a firearm to airline personnel for checking the firearm to the passenger’s destination
Exchanges of firearms at a range when those firearms are not permanently kept at the range
The return of a firearm from a LEO after an individual provides it for inspection during a stop
Delivery of a firearm that is property of a trust from one trustee of the trust to another
Delivery of a company firearm to security personnel requiring multiple exchanges of a firearm throughout a day
A nonresident with a Washington CCP borrowing a residents gun to carry
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