hunting with suppressors

[raydog]

Thanks, I wasn't sure

[actionshooter]

There is only one negative I have found hunting with a suppressor and that's the extra weight. Even the lightest is still heavy but the advantages far exceed that issue. Its easier on your ears, I believe it doesn't nearly "scare" the animal after the shot as a firearm without a suppressor and it tames the recoil which helps with a quick follow up shot if needed. Also it kinda has a "cool" factor. 

This is a Christensen Arms CA-10 .308 with a Whispertek can.

[longrangehunter338]

any change in accuracy with a suppressor?

[b23]

any change in accuracy with a suppressor?

The answer to this is somewhat subjective to the quality of the can you purchase.  A top quality suppressor from someone like Thunderbeast will have no ill affect on group size.  It may, slightly, change point of impact but won't change group size.

There is a lot of misinformation about suppressors/silencers. 

1)  Without a doubt, the best way to purchase one is to use a Trust.  If you go with a Trust and you make yourself the executor you can add anyone to your Trust at any time and they can use any suppressor purchased through your Trust and you do not need to be present.  If you go the Sheriff/Police Chief sign off form and you let a friend or family member use your suppressor, you have to be with them at all times while they are using it.  Also, if you use the Law Enforcement sign off form, you have to get finger printed and get Law Enforcement to sign off on every suppressor you buy.  With a Trust you don't have to do any of that.

2) Biggest reason people use a different suppressor for rimfires than they do their centerfires is because rimfire cans are much much lighter.  My Thunderbeast 22 suppressor weighs 3.5oz which is really light and my 223 can weighs 14.4oz which is one of the lightest 223 cans on the market but it's still over 10oz heavier than my little rimfire can.  Also, rimfires are much dirtier to shoot then centerfires which is why most rimfire cans can be taken apart and cleaned.

3) One Suppressor can be used on multiple rifles but ALWAYS consult with the manufacturer before you use it on another rifle so you aren't using it on something that exceeds the pressure limits of the can you're using.  Also, NEVER EVER use a 22LR rimfire suppressor on a .223 just because they both have .22cal hole in the end doesn't mean they can handle the pressures of a .223

Cost and wait time is the only real downside to suppressors.

[sirmissalot]

What's the process to set up a trust?

[b23]

You can go through a lawyer and have a Trust created or there are different places online you can buy a standard Trust and you fill in the blanks, print it out and have it notarized.

Also, with a Trust, in the even that you no longer are alive, you can pass the Trust off to whomever you choose to be your beneficiary.  If you purchase a can by way of Law Enforcement sign off and you pass away, the suppressor has to be turned in to the proper authorities.

Using a Trust to purchase ATF controlled items the individual doesn't really own the items, the Trust does.  I know it seems strange but it is what it is and it's by far the best way to purchase.  Another goofy rule, ONLY an ATF agent can ask you for proof of legal ownership of a suppressor.  Some ranges may ask to see your stamp in order to use their range with your suppressor though.  Regular law enforcement can ask you but only the ATF is who you must show it too.

[sooperfly]

  If you purchase a can by way of Law Enforcement sign off and you pass away, the suppressor has to be turned in to the proper authorities.

This is incorrect.  You can pass an NFA item on to your heirs regardless how you registered it.  Be it a Trust, Corp, or individual ( CLEO sign off ).   If you had it registered in your scenario it would transfer tax-free to your heirs on a Form 5.  The executor of your estate would do the paperwork.

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2013/10/how-to-fill-out-an-atf-form-5.html

And straight from the ATF.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/1999/09/090599-openletter-nfa-estate-transfers.html

[RB]

I do a lot of hunting with them. I hurt my hearing a couple years ago and decided it was time to get some. They help a lot but on the magnum they are still pretty loud. On certain velocity they are scary quiet.  Great for calling and not spoiling more yotes that might be making there way in.

What about recoil reduction, on a .300 win mag, as compared to a muzzle brake? Which is better?

[mountainman]

  If you purchase a can by way of Law Enforcement sign off and you pass away, the suppressor has to be turned in to the proper authorities.

This is incorrect.  You can pass an NFA item on to your heirs regardless how you registered it.  Be it a Trust, Corp, or individual ( CLEO sign off ).   If you had it registered in your scenario it would transfer tax-free to your heirs on a Form 5.  The executor of your estate would do the paperwork.

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2013/10/how-to-fill-out-an-atf-form-5.html

And straight from the ATF.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/1999/09/090599-openletter-nfa-estate-transfers.html

[carpsniperg2]

I do a lot of hunting with them. I hurt my hearing a couple years ago and decided it was time to get some. They help a lot but on the magnum they are still pretty loud. On certain velocity they are scary quiet.  Great for calling and not spoiling more yotes that might be making there way in.

What about recoil reduction, on a .300 win mag, as compared to a muzzle brake? Which is better?

I would say the muzzle brake is a little more effective in taming recoil but a suppressor will probably do 50-70% of what a brake will. Depending on brake design. Yet I prefer a suppressor because of the fact it saves my hearing. I hurt my hearing real bad shooting one of my magnums with a brake.

I have a ultimate build in 30-378 that I will be running a titanium can on. I am interested to see the results. Got to find some time to play.

[RB]

I do a lot of hunting with them. I hurt my hearing a couple years ago and decided it was time to get some. They help a lot but on the magnum they are still pretty loud. On certain velocity they are scary quiet.  Great for calling and not spoiling more yotes that might be making there way in.

What about recoil reduction, on a .300 win mag, as compared to a muzzle brake? Which is better?

I would say the muzzle brake is a little more effective in taming recoil but a suppressor will probably do 50-70% of what a brake will. Depending on brake design. Yet I prefer a suppressor because of the fact it saves my hearing. I hurt my hearing real bad shooting one of my magnums with a brake.

I have a ultimate build in 30-378 that I will be running a titanium can on. I am interested to see the results. Got to find some time to play.

Wow a Titanium can would be nice and quite a bit lighter. I ran CNC equipment years ago and machined some Titanium not bad if a guy has the right tools, even then still a slow process. Thanks for the feedback 

[carpsniperg2]

Yes indeed!

My titanium 30 cal direct thread comes in at only 15oz.

My QD steel comes in at 26 ounces plus the mount that is a few ounces!

So virtually 1/2 the weight.

[jay.sharkbait]

We just landed a new lathe at work.

Suppressor parts never crossed my mind

[RB]

Ran CNC similar to the picture for 19 years helped many a buddy with bushings or spacers for vehicles, lawn mowers, or other pieces. Ran CNC mill as well almost all Aerospace stuff, somedays wish I could have made gun parts for a bit just to have the experience and knowledge of making guns.

[b23]

I have a ultimate build in 30-378 that I will be running a titanium can on. I am interested to see the results. Got to find some time to play.

Who's can do you plan on using for your 30-378??