governors tag

[wilsongideon]

Anyone familar with Chloe Chevail? or whatever the winery below bear mountain? Worked up there in november seen a great big 5 x 6 biggest thing I have seen this year I could stretch him but he was a solid 26 inch plus buck with very nice mass a really daddy. anywayz I know this isnt a thread about winter range but since it was mentioned I will put my thought in. This guy was in a vineyard probably part of his normal winter range and couldnt get out of the deer fence I dont know how he got in anywayz he spent several hours trying to get out. . .finally some guys came through on ATVs and kinda gently chased him out I was really unhappy to see such a big deer get pinnned down in fences and not be out roaming and picking up a few hot doe. Ticked me off. . .wish I would have had my camera to prove it but all I got is my story. . .Saw something similar over in hawks meadow right across the main highway from there Its a shame to see prime wintering grounds and breeding grounds to boot get developed. Ruins any chances of producing a healthier herd and bigger deer. Sad but I wish they would go all permit hunting eastside.

[big_bucks]

Why do people feel the need to reveal where these bucks come from?  Just draws big crowds to areas.

I know exactly where that buck came from.  I watch them every year and NO I'm not saying anything to anyone.

I do have to agree that we're losing a ton of the wintering ground to development, etc.  It's having a negative impact on our herds, especially when combined with the unlimited tags and poor predator management. 

[videoman]

I think the trophy units in this state were the governor tag holders hunt are over hunted by the bow hunters.  The season are to long and they are wounding to many deer  .  If you found a good spot keep between yourself and your hunting buddies do post so the world can know.  That what the hunting and fish news does ruins all the good spots.

[lemondog]

If you really want quality then it will require less permits and tighter control. Better start letting the department know your thoughts whenever possible. Personally, I would rather have a chance at a giant buck every 5 years than see what is currently happening. It is a ton of fun to help a person with a great tag while waiting for your turn.....not everyone sees it this way but more every year. We can grow some awesome bucks in this state as you can occasionally see.

[Elkstuffer]

QUOTE FROM VIDEOMAN:I think the trophy units in this state were the governor tag holders hunt are over hunted by the bow hunters.  The season are to long and they are wounding to many deer


Are you kidding me videoman! 18 days during the rut in the Entiat for rifle hunters isn't too long? Archery guys wounding too many deer. Your statement is rediculous and sounds like its coming from a road hunting rifle hunter that hasn't filled a tag in awhile

[BENCHLEG]

I AGREE WITH ELKSTUFFER. J

[dbllunger]

I am a bow hunter.....but I totally disagree with Vidman on the wounding deer BS.  Bow hunters wound no more then rifle hunters period.  I do think there are too many late tags in the Entiat and I think they need to reduce all the tag numbers.  I agree with Vidman that the bow hunters should be reduced probably more then the others in that unit, but open up a couple late tags in other units.  It would spread the hunters out, and still maintain the same income to WDFW on applications.  As far as trophy hunting goes I have seen some serious abuse of quality tags that were intended for quality deer.  I would say using any LE tag to shoot a dink outside of youth hunters is the greatest waste of large buck genetics.     

[wilsongideon]

I think that all late weather/rut hunts should be closed personally even the draw tags . . .its to easy to kill these deer when they come down to survive and breed. Its not like they spend all summer in canada or in another state. I say find em early and take em out when they are at their best. not when they are doe hungry and stupid. Just my personal thoughts. I hate to see people hunting clear into december deer dont have the same odds of fair chase as they do in october or september

[dbllunger]

Wilson....the land owner of most of the Eastern side of Bear Mountain, and the North/West side fo the butte is the biggest MF'R,  CS'R, DB, jerk, butt pirate, around.  Oh his name is Jerry Scholfield.  He is the epitomy of the classic anti-hunting prick right up with Jane Fonda.  Oh yeah I won't go into all the land he posts, politics to eliminate access, and just flat blocks off that is not his and never will be his.  Oh yeah did I mention his big push to make a large section of the Entiat unit "Disabled Hunter Only",  that not a single disabled hunter could have actually hunted.  He is a MF'r equal to the best.  Just thought I would let you know.  Oh yeah did I say I really don't care for the guys Anti-Hunting beliefs.

[wilsongideon]

Thanks for the info. . .I dont know the guy/owners personally but I really hate the system up there I can tell you that. Absoluty drives me crazy when they shut down public access to state federal or any land in between really frustrates me. I actually dont hunt that area but there is a ton of deer and state land up behind the winery and the golf course. I wish I had enough money to shut the place down.

[mkcj]

Unless they secure permission (highly unlikely) they won't be shooting any bucks where that was shot.  So there should be no more pressure in that area then any other time. 


So if it's private property and no one can hunt it why is it such a secret?

[wa.hunter]

By the way how many of you knew that there were only 2 enforcement officer protecting our wildlife from Chelan to Leavenworth to I-90 sure doesn't seem this state really cares if there is any one out there protecting them. had to drive by 20 Washington State patrol writing tickets every day it seemed to do this hunt, you can really tell what this state cares about when they fund things. I get to leave tomorrow for an Ibex archery tag in New Mexico and will be lucky if I make it out of the state without a ticket and bet I don't see a state patrol in another state the rest of the way down. You guys have a happy new year I will be spending it on top of a mountain.

[boneaddict]

Well with Gregiores proposed budget cuts I suppose there will be one officer now.

And as for the rest of the wildlife.  Not sure what late hunts or permit hunts in all of Eastern Washington have to do with developement and winter range.  Two different topics.  I often do wonder why it is we still have hunting season clear to the end of december.  I was kind of shocked to see folks still out hunting.  How in the hell do you sort it out who is poaching and shoving racks under their hoods and who is hunting a legit hunt.  How many times was the govenor tag fellow reported for poaching?  Law abiding citizens doing their job yet causing nothing but a pain in the ass to the guy, but have to be thankful they were watching.  Lots of emotion with this.  Start preaching shorter seasons and the bowhunters get upset.  Start preaching eastern washington draw only and I get upset as I live in Eastern Washington and might get to hunt deer three times the rest of my life versus every year.  We area all going to have to sacrifice in order to get the herd back.  Unfortunately its all on the governors level and apparantly all like how she is doing things.  I see some good things happening withthe state picking up ground for core winter range, but I bet Gregiore will sacrifice that before her big house.  Look how many funds come in for wildlife.  When there is none, where is she going to get her funds then.    As for land owners....yes I think its a bitch when they can block public land.  On a good note, if it weren't for some of these refuges, not sure where some of the deer around here would go.  Right now private land is what is saving our deer herd.  This deer was practically a pet, living in folks yards.  How do you think he got so big.  Not putting down the hunter or the deer.  He worked hard and thats where he found the big one.....The last three biggest bucks I have seen so far this year have been sitting nice and cozy in somebodies yard.  Why, they get shot by some poaching *censored* in broad daylight because there are no game cops out there.  Then some dick cheeze on here comes and bitches as soon as a game cop does his or her job. 

[HardCorpsHuntr]

By the way how many of you knew that there were only 2 enforcement officer protecting our wildlife from Chelan to Leavenworth to I-90 sure doesn't seem this state really cares if there is any one out there protecting them. had to drive by 20 Washington State patrol writing tickets every day it seemed to do this hunt, you can really tell what this state cares about when they fund things. I get to leave tomorrow for an Ibex archery tag in New Mexico and will be lucky if I make it out of the state without a ticket and bet I don't see a state patrol in another state the rest of the way down. You guys have a happy new year I will be spending it on top of a mountain.

WOW!  Don't even know where to start with all this gibberish BS.

[WARHORSE]

not that i want to give up hunting but lets just say that for three years not one person bought a licence or tag for anything. i think it would be a huge eye opener for the good bad and the ugly!! whats  would that do for the herds? laws? lawmakers?