Dang, he really went to town on that first tree. The ones that I have found in this area look more similar to the second one (weeks old) which still gives me hope. As far as I know Im the only one that has been hunting this area for the past week from sunrise to set (figuratively). I got within 23yrds of a large doe and about 38 from a spike but decided to pass on them. All these rubs have made me crossing my fingers in hopes of coming across a nice buck (in an any deer area). If I eat my tag at least I have a nice spot for next year.