Letter Regarding Colockum Elk - The Reel News "The Tribes Killed Elk"

[buckhorn2]

Why don;t we stay with the 50-50 agreement that they are intitled to. We get 3 branched bull permits they should only get three.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Until we get casino's of our own so that we can make extremely large campaign contributions we will get nowhere, our only recourse is photographs and video, if you see "Natives" harvesting follw them and document activities and submit to media, a couple years ago it worked when some Lummi's were wasting wildlife.

[FrankDown]

Im not from here, and wehre Im from teh indigenous were killed off early basically, and moved to Oklahoma.  The closest ones that I know of are the Seminoles, many hundreds of miles south of where I grew up.  Therefore I never had any information about native americans, and they never had any impact on game.

When I moved to Washington state, you dont have to be the smartest or brightest to realize some things.  Hmmm.  Lets see, the salmon counts are down, and the natives are netting the entire river, hmmm.  Neting, no slamon.  Netting, no salmon.  The thing I dislike about the west coast is the PC attitude and liberal.  I see nothing wrong with them managing wildlife whether it be fish or elk or grouse or what.  Everywhere else Ive lived the game was a property of the state, not the few people that wanted to do whatever they wanted.  I have nothing against natives, but their management practices are absurd.  I also heard about the whale hunti with shotguns.  Ha. And boatmotors.  Ha again.  I can see letting them go do their thing traditionally and doing what they want, but come on.  They are raping the wildlife.  Its absurd. 

I dont go to the casinos, dont buy duty free stuff from them either.  Not that I have anything against them, I just dont gamble (ie give my hard earned money away) etc.

[Wacenturion]

It's just too bad someone (one of our Governors)did not have the forsight to negotiate all the casinos and potential income to the tribes in lieu of treaty hunting and fishig rights.  In other words....you can have casinos and everything that goes with them in exchange for giving up existing treaty rights for fish and wildlife.  Had something valuable they wanted and didn't use it.   Missed a big opportunity there! 

[WDFW-SUX]

If we get the right governor they can renegotiate the entire casino thing....and hopefully tribal hunting and a large tax on casino revenue will be part of those discussions.   Limiting gaming is the only leverage we have at this point.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

  still, if we had pictures of wasted wildlife and obvious abuses in the media it would get the attention of the non hunting public

[WDFW-SUX]

50% tax on gaming revenue or hunting off of the Rez take your pick.....

[FrankDown]

I am not so sure that he hunting with poor ethics would benefit hunters as much in the long run.  Some people would likely not differentiate the two, hunters and aboriginal rights.  I had always been told that nothing was wasted etc by natives.  Maybe it was like that before records and journals were started being taken and written.  Maybe ethics have changed dramatically in the last few decades.  Its  the same with salmon.  They complain the salmon is bad so we pay to run hatcheries so they can net them and sell them back to us.

Anyone have a name for a website to start about this?  For the things like this mismanagement of elk and salmon?  It needs a name, do like the peta puffers do with their agendas.  Just dont put the outright lies, misdirection, and disconnected emotion that they use to trick the innocent public into believing their lies and propaganda so they can buy houses in the mountains and drive BMWs and live big. You know, actually do something beside raise millions of dollars by fraudulent endeavors.

[NCWCracker]

Wow, this has gone kinda sideways....

Again, if you agree that the tribal hunting abuses on Colockum elk is a major issue that should be addressed in this State, send a letter to a politician...copy/paste mine if you like.  And, I think that if anyone can document what they witness with cameras and video....excellent tool to get exposure in the media.  Throw it into the public eye!! 

[Wenatcheejay]

If there are people here who have first hand proof save it for public comment and get it into the WDFW minutes. Take it to the Tribes and get their comments. Tell them YOU are the media doing a report. Get video and pictures, documentation with hard evidence. Get them bragging about how they do it. Then, when we have the proof, and it is on record in the minutes, wait until election year and that is when you expose it with a trumpet. Watch politicans squirm like a bug getting sprayed with Raid. Get video of rivers netted, spears ect... Then show them selling it on the road. Get the hunting video we all talk about.  If I get some I will post it. Ya'all do the same.

[whacker1]

I agree and will follow up with info to my legislators.
Thank you for starting this discussion

[snuff]

RUMOR HAS IT YESTERDAY DECEMBER 30TH TRIBAL MEMBERS WERE UP OKLAHOMA GULCH AND SHOT 3 OR 4 NICE BUCKS. SOMEONE CALLED INTO KOZI RADIO AND WAS TELLING THE STORY. IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND. WHY DON'T THEY SHOOT THE DOES IF THEY NEED MEAT?

[kingsalmonkllr77]

Just wanted to make sure this tread wouldn't be too far away in case more people wanted to read it. 

[NWTFhunter]

I would like to know how many of you have contacted Mr Anderson at WDFG ?  Really who has called, or sent a mail ?

I sent one to him regarding this subject and the wolves in the state.  I made it very clear that the dept needs to take a very close look at what the tribes are doing when it comes to hunting and taking elk and deer in these areas.

Well guess what ? Tuesday I get a call from one of the guys in his office.. I couldnt take the call cause we had birds working into the decoys.  I dont recall the name that the officer left on my voice mail, but I will call him back on Monday to discuss this.

I urged them to come here and look at what we are talking about and to be a part of the solution..

I hope all of you guys that feel the same way would send him a email.

[TheHunt]

I have never and will never step foot into an indian casino.  I am hoping that others would stop going to them as well.   The cat is out of the bag and as long as they have money they will continue to push for more and more.   

Hunt out of state...  Hunt in states that control the indians... E.g. Utah, Arizona, etc.