Teanaway wolf

[mfswallace]

Generally if you see a half dozen of them standing together with one or two collars,  you should have a good idea if there is a pack or not, but hey that's just me.    

Yes, that would lead most folks to believe there is a pack, including WDFW staff I'm sure.  When you are dealing with an extremely contentious species that is fraught with litigation you don't have the luxury of applying common sense and reasonable judgement...I believe a pack can not be confirmed until a den site and 2 pups surviving past 31 December is confirmed.  A much higher bar than seeing a group of wolves, even repeatedly seeing a group of wolves.   

it's backwards reasoning like that that adds to the problem..

   reverse psychology doesn't work on people with common sense 

[idahohuntr]

Call it backwards reasoning or reverse psychology...the fact is its reality.  You've got the same federal judge in DC that put the brakes on wolf hunting in several states (Great Lakes region and Wyoming) for some very minor technicalities for a species that anyone with common sense can tell you is not endangered.  So with that kind of fierce litigation you have to have iron clad methods when it comes to defending the counts/population growth etc. of wolves.  Common sense is just not relevant in a court room where so many of these issues are handled. 

[GameHunter1959]

Just like common sense said OJ killed Nichole Brown and Ron Goldman.

[fastdam]

Call it backwards reasoning or reverse psychology...the fact is its reality.  You've got the same federal judge in DC that put the brakes on wolf hunting in several states (Great Lakes region and Wyoming) for some very minor technicalities for a species that anyone with common sense can tell you is not endangered.  So with that kind of fierce litigation you have to have iron clad methods when it comes to defending the counts/population growth etc. of wolves.  Common sense is just not relevant in a court room where so many of these issues are handled. 

There is definitely. No common sense being applied in courtrooms. That much is for sure.

[zwickeyman]

Naches

Its inevitable. By the time they will be able to be legally managed it will be too late.

[Firedogg]

Shoot & shutup will soon be a hunting option state wide.