Increasingly Armed Mexican Populace Preparing for Revolution?

[Special T]

I found this article to be a great read. I personally think armed revolution IS necessary in order for Mex citizens to take back thier corrupt government. I remember reading about the federalies cracking down on citizens in a border town that kicked out Narco gangs and local corrupt cops. Boy would the USA be a better safer place if Mexico was even remotely uncorrupted and safe for its citizens.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/robert-farago/increasingly-armed-mexican-populace-preparing-revolution/

America’s anti-gunners vilify gun owners who dare suggest that armed citizens are a bulwark against government tyranny. Maybe back in the late 1700’s, but not today. They scoff at the idea, arguing that these latter day self-styled armed American patriots wouldn’t stand a chance against the might of a modern military, should such a thing come to pass. Well it has come to pass, just across our southern border . . .

Mexico is a case study of exactly what happens to a disarmed populace faced with a tyrannical government, backed by military force.

Suffering from decades of kidnapping, rape, torture, mutilation, murder and mass murder; brutalized by drug cartels and their government enablers, Mexico’s disarmed rural populations have taken up arms in their own defense – illegally – and formed citizen militias. These autodefensas are locked in battle with vicious drug cartels, corrupt local police, the Mexican military and the recently formed faux citizens’ police force called Fuerza Rural.

[Fl0und3rz]

Tag for later, thanks.

[Crunchy]

Mexico's problems are so deep.  Need to overthrow the drug cartels somehow.  I don't think they can do it on their own. 

[stevemiller]

They can and they will if they do as they are,Its about time they took up arms against their rulers. 

Now we will see if there really is any BROWN PRIDE if any go back to help their fellow countrymen. 

[Special T]

If there ever was a time to intervene, make a show of support or anything else I think it may be time. The corruption runs so deep that it bleeds across the border into the USA. I feel for the Mexican people and hope they take thier country back... I wonder tho if their Generally Socialist mind set politically will make it impossible. I read some while back that Mexicans have Strong Liberal mindset (government takes care of us) yet the Catholic faith runs strong and deep. I personally find this to be an odd combination and wonder it it helps to keep Mexicans under corrupt leaders.

[timberfaller]

"liberal mindset" 

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/12/26/mexicans-protest-german-embassy-say-guns-used-to-kill-missing-students-were/

The they are already "infected" by the Disease!

[montana44mag]

Mexico's problems are so deep.  Need to overthrow the drug cartels somehow.  I don't think they can do it on their own.

Its our moral responsibility to stop violently controlling peoples personal lives, legalize all drugs here and abroad, and support gun, and armament rights for all peoples.

[Bean Counter]

Filipe Calderon, their past president, showed tremendous courage in his quest to take on the cartels. They have been long entrenched in the scene of law enforcement, military, politicians, and even pop culture. Don't get me wrong--I don't like him for other reasons, but all-in-all I will remember him as a man of integrity for facing the elephant in the room head on and not burying head in the sand as so many others have done.

The notion that legalizing drugs will put the cartels out of business is as silly as thinking that by having a 365 day hunting season that we can eliminate poaching. The cartels aren't on a social justice mission in their quest to bring recreational marijuana to hard working, middle class Americans so they can let their hair down on the weekend. They look for what is profitable and high stakes and then engage; violently. Several cartels, notably Los Zetas, have pushed into other violent and dangerous activities when turf was lost in the drug trade and often such other activities like human trafficking, racketeering, and prostitution. Are we going to legalize all activities in hopes that it will put the bad guys out of business?

[montana44mag]

Are we going to legalize all activities in hopes that it will put the bad guys out of business?

No, just all activities between consenting ADULTS, such as drugs, prostitution, gambling, betting, and making and trading weapons. In a free market, these would no longer be  profitable for gangs.
Then we can focus our resources on ACTUAL CRIME, such as theft, extortion, burglary, pedophilia and human slavery.
We should fully support the idea of an armed Mexican populace "cutting out the cancer" in their society.

Viva La Revolution!

[Bean Counter]

I see. If I adulterate the MILF next door, her children would be "victimless" in such a transaction. Gotcha.

[montana44mag]

I see. If I adulterate the MILF next door, her children would be "victimless" in such a transaction. Gotcha.

Really? Were you born this way? did you hit your head? How much does trolling pay these days? You type so well for being so 

Are you suggesting we use tax dollars to stop "milfs" from hooking up with the neighbors?

Way to try and de-rail a serious thread....like always.

Go back to your hole.

[Bean Counter]

...Then we can focus our resources on ACTUAL CRIME, such as theft, extortion, burglary, pedophilia and human slavery...

More "we are the world" feel good ideology that reads good on paper. Doesn't pass the smell test in the real world.

Human trafficking and child sex slavery thrives in countries where prostitution is legal.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/15/legal-prostitution-and-sex-trafficking-from-the-annals-of-bad-economic-research/


"This paper investigates the impact of legalized prostitution on human trafficking inflows.
According to economic theory, there are two opposing effects of unknown magnitude. The
scale effect of legalized prostitution leads to an expansion of the prostitution market,
increasing human trafficking, while the substitution effect reduces demand for trafficked
women as legal prostitutes are favored over trafficked ones. Our empirical analysis for a
cross-section of up to 150 countries shows that the scale effect dominates the substitution
effect. On average, countries where prostitution is legal experience larger reported human
trafficking inflows."

... Oops 

Roll THAT in your blunt and smoke it.

[Mark Brenckle]

...Then we can focus our resources on ACTUAL CRIME, such as theft, extortion, burglary, pedophilia and human slavery...

More "we are the world" feel good ideology that reads good on paper. Doesn't pass the smell test in the real world.

Human trafficking and child sex slavery thrives in countries where prostitution is legal.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/15/legal-prostitution-and-sex-trafficking-from-the-annals-of-bad-economic-research/


"This paper investigates the impact of legalized prostitution on human trafficking inflows.
According to economic theory, there are two opposing effects of unknown magnitude. The
scale effect of legalized prostitution leads to an expansion of the prostitution market,
increasing human trafficking, while the substitution effect reduces demand for trafficked
women as legal prostitutes are favored over trafficked ones. Our empirical analysis for a
cross-section of up to 150 countries shows that the scale effect dominates the substitution
effect. On average, countries where prostitution is legal experience larger reported human
trafficking inflows."

... Oops 

Roll THAT in your blunt and smoke it.

  Did you read the article you linked?  The quote you pasted is a quote from a study that the article is saying was a crappy study...

[farmin4u_98948]

Just got back from a 2 week vacation in Mexico... I am always amazed at how the general population is so kind and gracious to us when we are there... Quite a few of the conversations that I had with our hosts made me laugh... There observations from parenting to gun control are very thought  provoking...... BUT.... what is always shockes me is the wages.... 6 to 10 dollars per day is standard..... That is why it is so easy to bribe and influence the general population....... If i leave a 10 dollar tip to a house cleaner I have just doubled her wages for the day...................

[Bean Counter]

   Did you read the article you linked?  The quote you pasted is a quote from a study that the article is saying was a crappy study...

Yes I actually read it. The review of the study gives people a chance to appreciate the two positions and one can read for themselves both positions and make up their determination. I go with the side of empirical data more than the theoretical/esoteric. He cites his facts as "sheer implausibility" without much original research unless I missed it. In the end he also agrees that legalized prostitution is likely to increase human trafficking.